Save yourselves?

[MoreCoffee]

It is a passive imperative...

"Be you saved from..."

And it tells you what to DO to BE Saved BY God...


Arsenios

This is true, I posted it earlier. "be you (a plural you) saved from" is what the expression σώθητε ἀπὸ says in literalese - "save yourselves" in English. And it is imperative, a command, something you are to do (by obedience) by fleeing from "this [current] wicked generation" which cannot mean flee to a different generation, that isn't exactly possible, but rather flee from the habits of mind and action that characterise this generation as wicked.

 

[Lamb]

Which versions say "be saved" instead of "save yourselves". You mention ten, which are these ten?

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Acts 2:40

There are 15 listed there.

 

[MoreCoffee]

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Acts 2:40

There are 15 listed there.

Yes, and an odd bunch many of them are. Are they in print? I see a few that are likely in print but many seem to be the work of individuals whose scholarly background is not clear.

Note: CSB & HSCB are the same, AMP and AMPC are the same and NASB also comes from the same source,

Here are the versions

AMP
And Peter solemnly testified and continued to admonish and urge them with many more words, saying, “Be saved from this crooked and unjust generation!”

AMPC
And [Peter] solemnly and earnestly witnessed (testified) and admonished (exhorted) with much more continuous speaking and warned (reproved, advised, encouraged) them, saying, Be saved from this crooked (perverse, wicked, unjust) generation.

CSB
With many other words he testified and strongly urged them, saying, “Be saved from this corrupt generation!”

CEB
With many other words he testified to them and encouraged them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation.”

DARBY
And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, Be saved from this perverse generation.

DLNT
And he solemnly-testified with many other words, and was exhorting them, saying, “Be saved from this crooked generation”.

HCSB
And with many other words he testified and strongly urged them, saying, “Be saved from this corrupt generation!”

ISV
Using many different expressions, Peter continued to testify and to plead: “Be saved,” he urged them, “from this corrupt generation!”

JUB
And with many other words he testified and exhorted, saying, Be saved from this perverse generation.

LEB
And with many other words he solemnly urged and exhorted them, saying, “Be saved from this crooked generation!”

MEV
With many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation.”

NASB
And with many other words he solemnly testified and kept on exhorting them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation!”

NKJV
And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation.”

TPT
Peter preached to them and warned them with these words: “Be rescued from the wayward and perverse culture of this world!”

WYC
Also with other words full many he witnessed to them, and admonished them, and said, Be ye saved from this depraved generation [saying, Be ye saved from this wicked, or shrewd, generation].

YLT
Also with many more other words he was testifying and exhorting, saying, `Be saved from this perverse generation;'​

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Wycliffe Bible (WYC) 2001 by Terence P. Noble;
Young's Literal Translation (YLT) by Public Domain

 

[MennoSota]

There seems to be, once again, confusion over what's Law and what's Gospel and the paradox of them. Both are true...God's law and God's gospel. That's why Lutherans proclaim both. But they have to be viewed in light of the situation. The Law accuses and brings terror and the Gospel forgives and brings comfort. That's why in 1 Corinthians 10:12 there is a warning about falling (as well as other verses I've stated in one of these threads) because we still sin and those sins come with dire warnings. But does that mean the Gospel is not true? For the man who sinned and is in despair over it, the Gospel is given to him to bring peace and joy.

1 Corinthians 10 has nothing to do with losing salvation, Lammchen.
I am not sure how you think it does.
1 Corinthians 10:6-13

Now these things took place as examples for us, that we might not desire evil as they did. Do not be idolaters as some of them were; as it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink and rose up to play.” We must not indulge in sexual immorality as some of them did, and twenty-three thousand fell in a single day. We must not put Christ to the test, as some of them did and were destroyed by serpents, nor grumble, as some of them did and were destroyed by the Destroyer. Now these things happened to them as an example, but they were written down for our instruction, on whom the end of the ages has come. Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall. No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.

This passage is a warning for Christians to flee sexual immorality. It is given to the Corinthians because they were still struggling with the pleasures that they enjoyed as pagans. Paul is warning against pride and also pointing them toward God who would help them stand against temptation.
Please explain how this passage is about losing salvation.

 

[Josiah]

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[Josiah]

People can't give themselves faith, but it seems they can wreck it. I say that as pious opinion, not dogma.

Consider the following:

Gospel:


Romans 8:29-39, For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified. What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all--how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died--more than that, who was raised to life--is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? As it is written: "For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered." No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. "

Mark 13:22, "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles to deceive the elect--if that were possible.

John 4:14, "but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life."

John 20:28, I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.

1 Thess. 5:24, "The one who calls you is faithful and he will do it.

Hebrews 10:14, "because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

Rev. 3:5, "I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels."



Law:

John 15:4-7, "Remain in me, and I will remain in you... If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned."

Rev. 2:10, "Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life.

Matthew 10:22, "He who stands firm to the end will be saved."

1 Timothy 4:1, "The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons."

Luke 8:13, "They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away."

John 8:31, "If you hold to my teaching, you are really My disciples."

Luke 21:19, "By standing firm you will gain life."

Hebrews 8:9, "They did not remain faithful to My covenant, and I turned away from them"

Gal. 5:4, "You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace."

Col. 1:23, "If you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel."

Hebrews 10:26, "If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God."

2 Peter 1:8-10, "But if anyone does not have them, he is nearsighted and blind, and has forgotten that he has been cleansed from his past sins. Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure."

2 Peter 3:17, "Be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position."

Rev. 3:5, He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white.

Luke 12:8, "He who disowns Me before men will be disowned before the angels of God."


BUT again, I strongly hold that Jesus is the Savior. He does the saving. Not self. Not now, not ever. Not 100%. not 0.000000000001%. It is the free gift of God, received by faith. We don't save ourselves - not a bit, not at all, not ever. Jesus is the Savior. The job's taken.



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[Arsenios]

Which versions say "be saved" instead of "save yourselves". You mention ten, which are these ten?

Simply look up the Greek - It is an aorist passive imperative: "'Be ye saved' from this pernicious generation..."

"Save yourselves" is an acceptable gloss, but is a tad exegetically misleading...

eg He is not telling them to "save themselves" but instead to "be saved"...

Man cannot save himself...


Arsenios