Peace, Love, & Understanding

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Do jews cling to hatred?

 

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Do jews cling to hatred?

There were no Jews in Cain's day; everybody back then was a Gentile; up to
and including, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
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• 1John 3:18 . . My little children, let us not love only in word or in tongue, but in
deed, and in truth.

What is truth? (John 18:38)

Pilate's question was meaningful in his day because ancient philosophers
perpetually discussed and debated the nature of truth without ever achieving a
universal agreement about it.

Well; one of Webster's definitions of "truth" is: a state of being the case; viz: fact;
which Webster's defines as the quality of being actual. In other words: truth is the
way it is; viz: truth is reality as opposed to speculation, fantasy, opinion, error,
inaccuracy, inexactness, theory, imagination, and false impressions, etc.

The trick to loving in truth is first of all knowing the truth.

Well to begin with; "thy word is truth" (John 17:17). So the Bible is the Christian's
first choice as a source of truth relative to love.

"Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your
mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of
God." (Rom 12:2)

There are no short-cuts to the truth. The good path is according to Eph 4:11-15;
viz: by teachers and preachers. I do not recommend the self-taught route. People
who go that way usually end up with disinformation lodged in their heads that is not
easily corrected. Beware.

"Some of Paul's comments are hard to understand, and those who are ignorant and
unstable have twisted his letters around to mean something quite different from
what he meant, just as they do the other parts of Scripture-- and the result is
disaster for them." (2Pet 3:16)

Love in accordance with truth may at times seem very unloving to the world
because it doesn't know the truth, nor does it care to know. I think a fair
percentage of the world would agree with Pilate that truth is uncertain and
unknowable.

The Greek word translated "deed" is ergon (er'-gon) which primarily has to do with
toil as an effort or occupation; but can also imply the way people act, i.e. the things
they do as opposed to the things they say. Some Christians can tell you all about
love, and readily quote the classic scriptures about love, but seem utterly incapable
of exemplifying any of it.
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There were no Jews in Cain's day; everybody back then was a Gentile; up to
and including, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
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Luke(yair) 11
[ 47 “Woe to you! You build tombs in memory of the prophets, but your fathers murdered them! 48 Thus you testify that you completely approve of what your fathers did — they did the killing, you do the building! 49 Therefore the Wisdom of God said, ‘I will send them prophets and emissaries; they will kill some and persecute others’; 50 so that on this generation will fall the responsibility for all the prophets’ blood that has been shed since the world was established, 51 from the blood of Hevel to the blood of Z’kharyah, who was killed between the altar and the Holy Place. Yes, I tell you, the responsibility for it will fall on this generation!]

I believe that inwardly there were many jews including noach with preceeding generations that suceeded adamah(adam.

Blessings Always

 

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Luke(yair) 11
[ 47 “Woe to you! You build tombs in memory of the prophets, but your fathers murdered them! 48 Thus you testify that you completely approve of what your fathers did — they did the killing, you do the building! 49 Therefore the Wisdom of God said, ‘I will send them prophets and emissaries; they will kill some and persecute others’; 50 so that on this generation will fall the responsibility for all the prophets’ blood that has been shed since the world was established, 51 from the blood of Hevel to the blood of Z’kharyah, who was killed between the altar and the Holy Place. Yes, I tell you, the responsibility for it will fall on this generation!]

I believe that inwardly there were many jews including noah through generations preceding and suceeding adam.

Blessings Always

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There were no Jews in Cain's day; everybody back then was a Gentile; up to
and including, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
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Numbers 27:8
Job 42:15
Psalms 37:11
Proverbs 13:22

What Does the Bible Say About Heirs To The Kingdom?

Bible verses about Heirs To The Kingdom

www.openbible.info

 

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There were no Jews in Cain's day; everybody back then was a Gentile; up to
and including, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
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Look closer

 

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• 1John 4:20-21 . . If someone says "I love God," and hates his brother, he's a liar;
for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God
whom he has not seen? And this commandment we have from Him: that he who
loves God must love his brother also.

NOTE: The commandment referenced is located at John 13:34

The Greek word translated "liar" isn't restricted to hard-core dishonesty, but applies
to anyone whose statements can be proven unsound; including misrepresenting
themselves, whether deliberate or mistaken makes no difference. In other words:
we could paraphrase the above to read: If anyone says "I love God" and hates his
brother, he's in need of correction.

In my opinion "liar" is a harsh description to pin on somebody, and I really think we
ought to reserve it for people who we know for sure are fully aware that what they
are saying is untrue. (This is only a suggestion. I'm not attempting to issue an
edict here.)

The Greek word for "love" throughout 1John 4:20-21 is agapao (ag-ap-ah'-o)
which is an indistinct word for love that may or may not include affection and
fondness; but it certainly includes things like civility, courtesy, generosity, lenience,
tolerance, charity, kindness, patience, forgiveness, diplomacy, humility, hospitality,
sympathy, respect, tact, etc.

I think that what John is trying to get across is that inconsiderate treatment of a
child of God betrays one's lack of consideration for a father's feelings; which is the
behavior of a churlish Christian rather than a spiritual Christian.
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• 1John 5:16-17 . . If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to
death, he should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not
lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should
pray about that. All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death.

The most common sins unto death are those classified as capital crimes; viz: those
for which the death penalty is the right thing to do. It would be a miscarriage of
justice to pray somebody out of that jam. If the courts and the laws of the land
have decided that they must die; then they must die; and that's that.

If a fellow believer is on death row for a capital offense; it's best to stay out of it
and let God and the courts handle it. Christians on death row should be encouraged
to man-up (or woman-up, as the case may be) and face the music rather than
expect sympathy from either their church or their Christian friends. Christians who
pray for the release of believers on death row for capital crimes are not only
attempting to obstruct justice, but also in shameful rebellion against Almighty God's
sovereign edicts.

"For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of
the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. For he is
God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear
the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him
who practices evil." (Rom 13:3-4)

FAQ: What does this mean? "God will give him life"

A: It's quite possible that a fellow Christian's conduct is sinful, but in their own
honest opinion it's not. The kind of life spoken of in this passage is an
enlightenment that pierces into the conscience and improves its sensibilities enough
to persuade the errant Christian to take the initiative to rectify their mistakes. (cf.
Gal 6:1)
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• 2John 1:5-6 . . And now I beseech you, lady, not as writing to you a new
commandment, but the one which we have had from the beginning, that we love
one another. And this is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is
the commandment, just as you have heard from the beginning, that you should
walk in it.

The precise identity of the "lady" of this epistle is impossible to know for sure.
Some have construed it to be Christ's mom, and yet others as a local church to
which John mailed his letter, while others believe it refers to the church as per Matt
16:18. I tend to think it was a local church since 2John 1:13 indicates the lady had
a sister; viz: a sister church.

The first of the two loves in the passage is agapao (ag-ap-ah'-o) which is a verb.
The second love is agape (ag-ah'-pay) which is a noun. Neither of those two words
specifically refer to either affection or fondness.

Things like courtesy, generosity, loyalty, sympathy, kindness, civility, and charity
can all be extended to one's fellow Christians without especially liking them; in
point of fact, we may even wholly despise them with every fiber of our being. But
we dare not allow our low opinion to dictate how we treat them.

Anyway, the bottom line is: though Christians obsess and chirp about love till the
cows come home, the bald fact is that if they are not complying with Christ's
commandments in their association with other believers, then as persons they have
little to commend them.

NOTE: Christianity is a very practical religion. It not only brings sinners into a right
relationship with their creator, but it also makes them better people; viz: makes
them more civil and humane.
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• 2John 1:5-6 . . And now I beseech you, lady, not as writing to you a new
commandment, but the one which we have had from the beginning, that we love
one another. And this is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is
the commandment, just as you have heard from the beginning, that you should
walk in it.

The precise identity of the "lady" of this epistle is impossible to know for sure.
Some have construed it to be Christ's mom, and yet others as a local church to
which John mailed his letter, while others believe it refers to the church as per Matt
16:18. I tend to think it was a local church since 2John 1:13 indicates the lady had
a sister; viz: a sister church.

The first of the two loves in the passage is agapao (ag-ap-ah'-o) which is a verb.
The second love is agape (ag-ah'-pay) which is a noun. Neither of those two words
specifically refer to either affection or fondness.

Things like courtesy, generosity, loyalty, sympathy, kindness, civility, and charity
can all be extended to one's fellow Christians without especially liking them; in
point of fact, we may even wholly despise them with every fiber of our being. But
we dare not allow our low opinion to dictate how we treat them.

Anyway, the bottom line is: though Christians obsess and chirp about love till the
cows come home, the bald fact is that if they are not complying with Christ's
commandments in their association with other believers, then as persons they have
little to commend them.

NOTE: Christianity is a very practical religion. It not only brings sinners into a right
relationship with their creator, but it also makes them better people; viz: makes
them more civil and humane.
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Perhaps this message is comparably addressed to the wife of havel. A comfort and warning against seeking vengence.
A teaching passed from mother to progeny to hold life dear in their heart till salvation washes the world.
A teaching I imagine Noah's mother taught her first born noach.
Faith in armor.

Blessings Always

 

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• 2John 1:10-11 . . If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not
receive him into your house nor greet him; for he who greets him shares in his evil
deeds.

The greeting in view is the holy kiss mentioned in Rom 16:16, 1Cor 16:20, 2Cor
3:12, 1Thess 5:26, and 1Pet 5 :14. The holy kiss is reserved for brethren, not for
outsiders.

Some have construed 2John 1:10-11 to mean believers are forbidden to respond to
a knock on their door by Latter Day Saints and/or Jehovah's witnesses, or invite them
in for a chat. That's not really what John's saying.

In his day, missionaries were put up in people's homes during their travels; thus
assisting them in their mission. So then, if you greet cultists as brethren, and/or
put them up for the night, or assist them in any way to accomplish their mission,
then you become an accomplice; and that includes buying flowers from Moonies.
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• Jude 1:22-23 . . On some have compassion, making a distinction; but others
rescue with fright, pulling them out of the fire, hating even the garment defiled by
the flesh.

Some Christians are offended by fright because it violates their concept of love. But
fright can be a good thing if it's applied judiciously. For instance: it is just as wise
to be afraid of God as it is wise to be afraid of cactus spines, a mule's kick, and/or a
forest fire.

Christians neglecting to build themselves up on their most holy faith, to pray in the
Holy Spirit, to keep themselves in the love of God, and to look for the mercy of
their Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life; are seriously off-reservation. Some are so
far off-reservation that somebody needs to get in their face and confront them
about their condition, even if it means becoming harsh, insensitive, and judgmental
because stray Christians are also away from God's providence; and that is a very
risky situation to be in.

Some off-reservation Christians can be stopped from destroying themselves; while
others are too far gone. Of those with possibilities, counselors have to use a little
God-given common sense as it isn't necessary to employ fright with everyone— just
the ones who are particularly difficult. Some people can be reasoned with, while
others only understand fear and can be persuaded to move in the right direction
only by lighting a fire under them, so to speak.

— The End —

 

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I was once asked by an atheist why Christians have so many rules when all they
need is just one: the so-called Golden Rule.

Well; for many of us who grew up in dysfunctional families, broken homes, foster
systems, gangs, and/or orphanages et al; the concept of love doesn't resonate in
our thinking; viz: it just bounces off us like a sonar ping because we quite literally
have no points of reference in our minds to aid comprehending what Christ means
by love.

● John 13:35 . . By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one
another.

We know what Hollywood and contemporary music mean by love, but many of us
scarcely have a clue what Christ means by it in that verse.

This is why the epistles are so valuable-- those writings not only show Christ's
followers how to recognize love when they encounter it; but also how to exemplify
it in their own lives so that those of us who were deprived of love growing up are
not left to figure it out on our own.

So; I'm utilizing this thread to go thru the epistles a little at a time each day
commenting on Bible passages that put a face on love so we can get to know it
better.

Buen Camino
(Pleasant Journey)
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I love this. Read it twice,

 

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Love is important but we don't understand until we suffer how much love cost if man knew the love Jeses have and it's in all of us they would stop doing wrong.

 

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Modern Christians, even though love is brought up in their communication, are generally showing a lack of that and other qualities Christian believers are to grow in, that they, as imitators of God, walk in love, as Christ showed his love, Ephesians 5:1-2, along with having joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control, Galatians 5:22-23. These things should show more from Christian believers these days, that they are known by their love to others. And believers are to learn that their love and care is not stop at limits.

 

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Lacking tolerance of other people is such lack of love. We can speak of the gospel, and repentance from sin, but it is not a witness to others without love shown. Jesus is the example to us for that. We will not find others just like us, and that is not the point.

 

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God is our example, as Jesus had said, "Be then perfect, as (for) your Father in Heaven is perfect." (Matthew 5:48) God is not limiting love and caring for God's creatures, Jesus also is showing that in the incarnation he is called the Son of God, so that the heavenly Father would be known as such, and through Jesus Christ followers would come to God and would know the heavenly Father as their Father. Because God does not limit these spiritual things that in us would be called spiritual fruit, there is no basis for us to let those be limited in our spiritual growth, and these should grow without limits we would impose on them if we would.

 

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Can it be that fright is a good thing if it's applied judiciously? Is it just as wise to be afraid of God as it is wise to be afraid of cactus spines, a mule's kick, or a forest fire? If we live in fear, we do not do anything other than how we live that avoids risking what we fear. Fear is not enabling. I could fear what I might step on, if I walk everywhere barefoot, and so avoid that, though there are real problems to feet that one had a lifetime of them depending on wearing shoes or enclosed footwear to walk in. But I got past the fears and walked more and more barefoot, and conditioned my feet, and am not limited in how far I can go where I need to when going barefoot all the way. And in the same way fear of change does not help for living in better ways, such as eating in ways that are better. Fear of God still is about how awesome God is and our lives are totally in God's hands. Knowing God loves us will not have that mean that we live being afraid of God, trusting God with the fear of God in us should enable us to do more things, and those things can be for what is better.

 

[FredVB]

I was once asked by an atheist why Christians have so many rules when all they
need is just one: the so-called Golden Rule.

Well; for many of us who grew up in dysfunctional families, broken homes, foster
systems, gangs, and/or orphanages et al; the concept of love doesn't resonate in
our thinking; viz: it just bounces off us like a sonar ping because we quite literally
have no points of reference in our minds to aid comprehending what Christ means
by love.

We know what Hollywood and contemporary music mean by love, but many of us
scarcely have a clue what Christ means by it.

Love without reference to God will tend to fall very short. Atheists are at a disadvantage in that very thing. And we can be so sure of what God is like through Jesus Christ, who reveals enough for that. The Creator cares for all in the creation, as is shown of the beginning, God is not limited from that and does not choose for being limited from that. And the creation at the start shows how creation is to be, without cause for suffering, sorrow, or death, and having none being deprived. Who God cares for should not leave us limiting our love for them, to let them suffer, be in sorrow, be deprived, or left to die. Where we can make a difference, we should. Growing in spiritual fruit as should happen in those who are indeed Christian believers would lead to this.

There really is purpose to our life.

 

[FredVB]

Indeed without loving others we are lacking in loving God. Love is neglected often when it should not be. Jesus Christ provides the only way for reconciliation with God with salvation. Being peacemakers was important in the message from Jesus, along with acting with love and compassion and mercy, obedience to godly things, and trusting in biblical promises with following him. We are responsible ourselves for our responses, and in Christ we are to turn from sinfulness, as God provides for that, and in eternity we would be with God blissfully happy from then on. Consider that Paul wrote, the greatest of these is love. We know that passage, and it is referenced often in speaking about love. What are these, though, that love is the greatest among? These are faith and hope! Faith in Christ with which we are saved! Faith that is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen, from which we understand many things. Love is greater than that. Faith in Christ through which we are restored to God with the atonement and saved ... must not be without love, love is essential. Faith without works is dead faith, but works themselves, the spiritual works that are meant, are works from love. Without these there is not evidence of salvation with faith. Love is of utmost importance. And there is no basis for limiting it as we grow spiritually in godliness as God does not limit the qualities that in us would be spiritual fruits of the growth.