Misandry - Men Don't Exist (video)

[Stravinsk]

Thought provoking video I found on youtube.

Discuss.

 

[MarkFL]

Hmmm...I will admit I was unfamiliar with the word "misandry" before this thread. I must note however, that my browser's spellchecker, does in fact recognize the word in my post.

I never really noticed the subtle differences in language used by the media when reporting events that involve men vs. those that involve women. As [unm]tango[/unm] recently posted in another thread, the media is about selling their product, and so I am certain through focus group studies, they have determined the exact language that most effectively gets our attention.

I have no problem with the recognition that we men commit the vast majority of violent/sexual crime...we are driven by our testosterone to be more aggressive, violent, risk taking. We are veritable beasts. :sadwavey:

 

[Stravinsk]

Hmmm...I will admit I was unfamiliar with the word "misandry" before this thread. I must note however, that my browser's spellchecker, does in fact recognize the word in my post.

I never really noticed the subtle differences in language used by the media when reporting events that involve men vs. those that involve women. As [unm]tango[/unm] recently posted in another thread, the media is about selling their product, and so I am certain through focus group studies, they have determined the exact language that most effectively gets our attention.

I have no problem with the recognition that we men commit the vast majority of violent/sexual crime...we are driven by our testosterone to be more aggressive, violent, risk taking. We are veritable beasts. :sadwavey:

Although I suspect that *reported numbers* that reflect statistics would show a majority (perhaps not quite as vast as one might think) - the issue of female violence (in general, and specifically against men) rarely makes news or media. One cannot assume simply on this that it is absent - because it is not.

In popular media, commercials and talk shows, women abusing men (physically or otherwise) is often treated as humor. 90% of the time the same actions, genders reversed, get treated with a completely different standard. Our society laughs at women abusing men, treats it as a joke. It is not a surprise to me that more serious violations seldom make it to the courts much less the statistics.

The consequences (when they do make it to the courts) are different for women as well. If a woman rapes a man (yes, this is possible even without a phallic strap on) - such as if she drugs him (not unheard of) she will receive far less punishment in western society than if a man raped a woman. The assumption in everyone's mind in a scenario like this is that he couldn't have been raped because he was aroused (even though he was drugged). Curiously, no one makes that argument if a woman's body show signs of arousal during her rape (such as lubricating the vaginal area).

Even in the case of consensual sex with a minor(and consent can be argued but only up to a point depending on age) - an adult woman who has sex with a male minor is treated completely different than if an adult man has sex with a female minor. The consequences are different as well.

The double standard is indeed hideous and I think the video does a fair job at showing the presumption and use of language to portray that presumption in media.

 

[Lamb]

As a former high school substitute teacher I will attest to the fact that boys get into trouble more than girls. I would even go so far as to say 90% or more of a percentage! The punishment was equal as far as I know since the rules for specific actions are written in the handbook.

 

[MarkFL]

Although I suspect that *reported numbers* that reflect statistics would show a majority (perhaps not quite as vast as one might think) - the issue of female violence (in general, and specifically against men) rarely makes news or media. One cannot assume simply on this that it is absent - because it is not.

Yes, the media may be more motivated to promote a story about a female victim than a male, simply because they know it will have more interest and sympathy.

I know, at least from my own introspection, that I am far more bothered by stories of child/elderly and animal abuse that I am about stories of adult people being hurt/abused. The elderly, children and animals are mostly helpless to defend themselves from abuse, nor are the very likely to have done anything to bring this upon themselves.

I know in my fore-brain, this contradiction doesn't make sense, but my limbic system doesn't seem to care.

 

[Stravinsk]

Yes, the media may be more motivated to promote a story about a female victim than a male, simply because they know it will have more interest and sympathy.

The operative question is - "why assume it will have more interest and sympathy"? Is that assumption based on something inherent about men - and if not - why make it unless that is the desired outcome - to associate the word "men" with everything bad, but for any tragedy or good that a person of the male gender does - disregard their gender entirely in favor of their job description - such as fire fighter, coal miner, crew person etc - or simply call them "individuals" (even if they are all male) who happen to be in a certain place at a certain time?

This is the main point of the video I pick up. There is nothing *more* tragic about a female officer getting gunned down than a male officer - but the assumption is played out as if there is in what is omitted or included based on gender.

 

[Rens]

I don't see misandry at all being promoted on tv in Holland, only about muslim immigrants maybe who are bossy and think women have no rights. Here we have enough feminism and equality, the men like it too.
You get men hate when men are dominant, but most here are the opposite.

 

[MarkFL]

The operative question is - "why assume it will have more interest and sympathy"?

I don't think this is an assumption, but more likely an observed fact, which the media use to their advantage. They are going to go with what draws the most attention, without regard to whether it is fair or not.