Kingdom of heaven is here now

[brian100]

Jesus says the 'Earth is Heaven' ------so just look at the sky and weather to know Earth is in Heaven. I have looked everyday and say wow this place is awesome!! Its this world! The Kingdom of Heaven is here, "now ".. (but its like a trial version of it all).. & you will have to account for the free gift. He also says later its inside you... aka Life. See Heaven? God has allowed me to photograph it just this year (March 13th, 2020) (13 is the blessed mother day?). No way its more coincidence (Jesus gave it to me to use for this video). It never rains in Vegas!! lol. https://ibb.co/0qZVgLB

 

[Lamb]

You're going to base this on a movie?

The movie adds to what scripture says so maybe you shouldn't build your theology from a movie.

 

[Bluezone777]

Jesus of Nazareth (TV series) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This is a wiki page for the movie the clip is from. IN it, they list 16 times the movie makers deviated from scripture by either adding or subtracting from it. There could easily be more examples not listed so I wouldn't base your theology on a movie especially not this one if I were you.

 

[Andrew]

It's the main view in preterism that we are reigning in/with Christ in Gods Kingdom on Earth right now and forever, I guess until we die and go to the Heavenly kingdom?
However during Christ's ministry he never said the kingdom was the here and now since he had not been crucified and resurrected yet

 

[tango]

Jesus says the 'Earth is Heaven' ------so just look at the sky and weather to know Earth is in Heaven. I have looked everyday and say wow this place is awesome!! Its this world! The Kingdom of Heaven is here, "now ".. (but its like a trial version of it all).. & you will have to account for the free gift. He also says later its inside you... aka Life. See Heaven? God has allowed me to photograph it just this year (March 13th, 2020) (13 is the blessed mother day?). No way its more coincidence (Jesus gave it to me to use for this video). It never rains in Vegas!! lol. https://ibb.co/0qZVgLB

When did Jesus say the earth is heaven? I'm looking for a quote from Scripture, not a quote from a movie.

What has 13 got to do with "the blessed mother day"? Is that something you found from Scripture, from popular culture or from some kind of pagan religion?

My camera works all 365 days of the year and even works on February 29 during leap years. I'm not sure what "God has allowed me to photograph" signifies, other than the expectation that it's something utterly unremarkable that you're turning into some hugely significant cosmic sign because, well, why exactly? Does it count as a cosmic sign if it aligns with the point you're trying to make, however little support it actually offers your point?

 

[brian100]

You have to account for it. Its not a free gift.

 

[Bluezone777]

Romans 6:23 disagrees with you..

" When people sin, they earn what sin pays—death. But God gives his people a free gift—eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

 

[tango]

... and then there's that pesky text from Paul in (I think) Ephesians 2 where he says it's a gift by grace and not through works so that none may boast.

 

[Lamb]

You have to account for it. Its not a free gift.

Gifts are never earned. That's the point.

 

[tango]

Gifts are never earned. That's the point.

If it's earned it's a payment rather than a gift

 

[Lamb]

If it's earned it's a payment rather than a gift

Thankfully Jesus earned what we cannot

 

[tango]

Thankfully Jesus earned what we cannot

It's said that the only way one person can receive something without paying for it is if someone else pays for it and doesn't receive it.

Jesus paid the price for our sin and we get the reward. It's a pretty good deal, from our perspective at least.

 

[brian100]

I just showed you he said you have to account for heaven.

 

[tango]

Where did you show us? In the movie you posted? I don't take theology from movies - try chapter and verse from Scripture.

 

[atpollard]

Jesus says the 'Earth is Heaven'

No he didn’t.
Jesus actually said:

[Matthew 16:1-4 NIV]
1 The Pharisees and Sadducees came to Jesus and tested him by asking him to show them a sign from heaven. 2 He replied, "When evening comes, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red,' 3 and in the morning, 'Today it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overcast.' You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times. 4 A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah." Jesus then left them and went away.

[Luke 12:54-59 NIV] 54 He said to the crowd: "When you see a cloud rising in the west, immediately you say, 'It's going to rain,' and it does. 55 And when the south wind blows, you say, 'It's going to be hot,' and it is. 56 Hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky. How is it that you don't know how to interpret this present time?
57 "Why don't you judge for yourselves what is right? 58 As you are going with your adversary to the magistrate, try hard to be reconciled on the way, or your adversary may drag you off to the judge, and the judge turn you over to the officer, and the officer throw you into prison. 59 I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny."

 

[brian100]

He said you have to account for the free gift. He said it in the beginning of the movie above.. and its backed up by this:

Matthew 16:27
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels: and then will he render to every man according to his works.

 

[tango]

Firslty, forget about movies. If we're talking theology you need to be able to provide chapter and verse, not some random quote from a movie.

Rendering to people according to works is a very different proposition to what you're talking about. You don't get to twist Scripture to fit what some guy says in a movie.

 

[brian100]

The movies is about Jesus. Saying to forget what he said makes you an unbeliever.

 

[Lamb]

The movies is about Jesus. Saying to forget what he said makes you an unbeliever.

He's not an unbeliever. He doesn't believe that the movie is an accurate portrayal of Jesus' words and proper scriptural quoting.

 

[tango]

The movies is about Jesus. Saying to forget what he said makes you an unbeliever.

I'm saying to forget about the movies. If Jesus said something quote chapter and verse from Scripture. If you can't quote chapter and verse it raises a big question as to whether or not he really said it at all.