Israel now at war

Angel Michael

Well-known member
Joined
Oct 25, 2023
Messages
64
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Eastern Orthodox
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Single
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Couldn't possibly get any more evil than wishing for the murder of an entire people.


You probably didn't know this, but Hamas was created and funded by the powers that be in Israel as an alternative to the PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization).

Whether the Palestinians actually voted them in is actually irrelevant. Thanks to Israeli policy, the Palestinian people live in an open-air prison. They did not have access to many basic items even prior to this conflict. The reason a vote for Hamas is irrelevant is because no Palestinian would want open conflict with the very heavily armed Israel. They would be decimated.

Israel started this, because the founding and control of Hamas was by Israel, and is by Israel. Hamas is their whipping boy. It's there to place the blame on a separate entity and justify what the powers that be in Israel have wanted for a long time - the removal of the Palestinians.
A man/woman of reason here.
 

Lees

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 16, 2022
Messages
2,182
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Christian
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Situation is very simple for those who follow history. For those who listen to mainstream media, well..
During ww2 jews flew to Palestine and were accepted there. At the time they had no state for they were scatered by God, not to have country. But, that changed due to influence of UK where they helped them establish their own country from by taking it from Palestine (part of it).

Conflicts kept going between them on and off and now we come to 2023. What was shown as important is that HAMAS entered Israel, did masslaughter of people. Now, what is not being told is that day before that, on 6th, massacre happened in the outskirt of jeruselam by armed jewish citizens who spilled blood on the sacred ground of al alqsa mosque.

Another thing is that Israel was warned before the attack by Egypt and they not only ignored it but they shut down their dome shield and allowed HAMAS to enter with no issues inside. This was all planned out as to find a strong reason for retaliation so that people say: "Yeah, well, you asked for it" while truth is different. Same trick Germans used in Poland to invade them.

Now, Israel is bombarding and murdering civilians as they please and world media lies how they target HAMAS bases and how HAMAS strike themselves. Pathetic. This is a pure extermination of people. This is not a military action, this is a genocide. By war laws, military can attack only military and not civilians. Here we see mass civilian murders and even church destroying, hospitals..

I am not saying this out of the blue, I got proofs. I would post images and videos here of reality there, but it is a sensitive content, so no. Friend of mine had relatives there and they all died during hospital bombing. How sad.

I support all those who stand with Palestine for they stand not only against injustice but also against another country who did same things as US did for decades and nobody dared to say anything. Enough is enough. World has to hear cries of those people and I am glad people wake up and it is not only muslims. #standWithPalestine

Israel's right to the land in Palestine is not based on 1948. It is based on God's promise to them of that land. (Gen. 12:1-3) It is because God chose Abraham and the promises followed on down through Isaac and Jacob and the 12 sons of Jacob which make up the nation of Israel.

Islam hates this choice of God and therefore hates Israel. And anyone who supports the Palestinians in this war does the same.

Lees
 

Messy3

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 1, 2023
Messages
197
Gender
Female
Religious Affiliation
Christian
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Situation is very simple for those who follow history. For those who listen to mainstream media, well..
During ww2 jews flew to Palestine and were accepted there. At the time they had no state for they were scatered by God, not to have country. But, that changed due to influence of UK where they helped them establish their own country from by taking it from Palestine (part of it).

Conflicts kept going between them on and off and now we come to 2023. What was shown as important is that HAMAS entered Israel, did masslaughter of people. Now, what is not being told is that day before that, on 6th, massacre happened in the outskirt of jeruselam by armed jewish citizens who spilled blood on the sacred ground of al alqsa mosque.

Another thing is that Israel was warned before the attack by Egypt and they not only ignored it but they shut down their dome shield and allowed HAMAS to enter with no issues inside. This was all planned out as to find a strong reason for retaliation so that people say: "Yeah, well, you asked for it" while truth is different. Same trick Germans used in Poland to invade them.

Now, Israel is bombarding and murdering civilians as they please and world media lies how they target HAMAS bases and how HAMAS strike themselves. Pathetic. This is a pure extermination of people. This is not a military action, this is a genocide. By war laws, military can attack only military and not civilians. Here we see mass civilian murders and even church destroying, hospitals..

I am not saying this out of the blue, I got proofs. I would post images and videos here of reality there, but it is a sensitive content, so no. Friend of mine had relatives there and they all died during hospital bombing. How sad.

I support all those who stand with Palestine for they stand not only against injustice but also against another country who did same things as US did for decades and nobody dared to say anything. Enough is enough. World has to hear cries of those people and I am glad people wake up and it is not only muslims. #standWithPalestine


 
Last edited:

Albion

Well-known member
Valued Contributor
Joined
Sep 1, 2017
Messages
7,760
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Anglican
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Conflicts kept going between them on and off and now we come to 2023. What was shown as important is that HAMAS entered Israel, did masslaughter of people. Now, what is not being told is that day before that, on 6th, massacre happened in the outskirt of jeruselam by armed jewish citizens who spilled blood on the sacred ground of al alqsa mosque.

Another thing is that Israel was warned before the attack by Egypt and they not only ignored it but they shut down their dome shield and allowed HAMAS to enter with no issues inside. This was all planned out as to find a strong reason for retaliation so that people say: "Yeah, well, you asked for it" while truth is different. Same trick Germans used in Poland to invade them.
That is not credible, considering that the Hamas attack was well thought-out, planned, and carefully arranged. While Israel may have been unaware, for whatever reason, the idea that Hamas simply reacted to some event in Israel and did so in this fashion on a ONE DAY notice is not possible.

................

I am not saying this out of the blue, I got proofs. I would post images and videos here of reality there, but it is a sensitive content, so no.
That's what I thought. :rolleyes:
 

Messy3

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 1, 2023
Messages
197
Gender
Female
Religious Affiliation
Christian
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes

Lees

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 16, 2022
Messages
2,182
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Christian
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
The world nations are slowly turning against Israel...as they always do. Will Biden? Of course he will. Look at how he is destroying America with his ignoring the immigration and border crisis. He doesn't want Israel to solve their problem as he should solve ours. It would make him look bad. Like he needs any help in that.

Biden keeps saying don't do as America did in Afghanistan and Iraq. Well, they are not doing as America did. They are not making the mistake of trying to distinguish Hamas from Palestinians. Because they recognize they are all Hamas. Something foolish America trys not to do because she wants to posture herself before the world as being so good and kind. Thus she can't win a war. She thinks her power is in her threat. But she has lost that.

Make no mistake, Biden will turn against Israel so that he looks good before the world. The U.S. will turn against Israel for the same reason.

America is perfectly represented in it's leader. A shell of a man, and brain dead.

Lees
 

Lees

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 16, 2022
Messages
2,182
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Christian
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
To the unbelieving heathen and the unbelieving Christians:

(Joel 3:11-14) " Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathern, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.

"Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.

"Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.

"Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision."

Lees
 

Lees

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 16, 2022
Messages
2,182
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Christian
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Just listened to an interview with the Hezbollah leader in Lebanon on BBC. He was adamant that Israel started this war, not the Palestinians. Oct. 7th was a defensive move by Hamas, he said.

It should be plain to see, but alas most won't, that there is no negotiating a peace deal when that is the logic of your enemy. This Islamic Arab people don't want to live in peace with Israel. They want Israel gone.

Israel is doing the right and necessary thing right now in destroying the Gaza strip. And of course the world is just appalled. But who is the prince of this world? Satan. And he hates Israel.

Sadly, according to Scripture Israel will settle one day for a peace agreement, bowing to the pressure no doubt from the world. And this peace agreement carries with it some sort of disarmament. See (Ezekiel 38:11,14). That will be a peace agreement with the anti-christ, with the Devil himself, who will turn on Israel like a rabid wolf. (Matt. 24:15-20)

If only Israel would just believe their own Scripture. The same can be said for much of the Church.

Lees
 
Last edited:

Lamb

God's Lil Lamb
Community Team
Administrator
Supporting Member
Joined
Jun 10, 2015
Messages
32,649
Age
57
Gender
Female
Religious Affiliation
Lutheran
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
This thread has undergone a clean up. Please do not make posts personal or flame. Stick to the topic only.
 
Last edited:

Lees

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 16, 2022
Messages
2,182
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Christian
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Israel extended the pause in the war to get more hostages free. And what happens?

A Hamas terrorist shoots and kills three Jews in Jerusalem. Yet the nations of the world continue to cry out for help to the Palestinians.

The Palestinians don't free one for one hostages. Israel must free several Palestinians for one of theirs. It shows you what the Palestinians care about their hostages. They are just bargaining chips which are worth less than then Palestinian prisoners.

But everyone cries that the Palestinians are human beings. Perhaps. But they are a warped and rabid peoples.

Israel needs to cease this pause in the war and carry on with it's destruction of the Gaza Strip as it was doing.

To all people and Christians who think otherwise, what do you think Jesus is going to do when He returns? How many women and children died in the flood? Answer: all of them save the 8 souls in Noah's ark.

Lees
 

Castle Church

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 16, 2021
Messages
427
Location
USA
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Methodist
Political Affiliation
Conservative
Marital Status
Married
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Israel needs to cease this pause in the war and carry on with it's destruction of the Gaza Strip as it was doing.
100% agree with this.
 

Messy3

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 1, 2023
Messages
197
Gender
Female
Religious Affiliation
Christian
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Israel extended the pause in the war to get more hostages free. And what happens?

A Hamas terrorist shoots and kills three Jews in Jerusalem. Yet the nations of the world continue to cry out for help to the Palestinians.

The Palestinians don't free one for one hostages. Israel must free several Palestinians for one of theirs. It shows you what the Palestinians care about their hostages. They are just bargaining chips which are worth less than then Palestinian prisoners.

But everyone cries that the Palestinians are human beings. Perhaps. But they are a warped and rabid peoples.

Israel needs to cease this pause in the war and carry on with it's destruction of the Gaza Strip as it was doing.

To all people and Christians who think otherwise, what do you think Jesus is going to do when He returns? How many women and children died in the flood? Answer: all of them save the 8 souls in Noah's ark.

Lees
He hasn't returned yet. He's patient because He wants everyone saved.

 

Lees

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 16, 2022
Messages
2,182
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Christian
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
He hasn't returned yet. He's patient because He wants everyone saved.


What makes you think I am impatient?

What does your statement have any thing to do with what I said?

Oh good. Israel is blowing the **** out of the Palestinians. And many muslims have a 'come to Jesus' moment. All the better. I guess, according to you, that works better than the Gospel.

Sort of like, 'everyone in prison meets God'.

Please....!

Lees
 

John Steed

Member
Joined
Jul 18, 2022
Messages
16
Gender
Female
Religious Affiliation
Baptist
Marital Status
Single
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
Praying for Israel and also Palestine. And that they can really stop fighting. Along with getting the military to leave no stone unturned for those cowardly, heartless monsters of Hamas. As Hamas needs to be destroyed once and for all. In destroying ISIS as really now Hamas should had been destroyed for a very long time. Time to follow through and get the world's military and the USA to destroy Hamas and terrorists monsters like them.
 

Messy3

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 1, 2023
Messages
197
Gender
Female
Religious Affiliation
Christian
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
What makes you think I am impatient?

What does your statement have any thing to do with what I said?

Oh good. Israel is blowing the **** out of the Palestinians. And many muslims have a 'come to Jesus' moment. All the better. I guess, according to you, that works better than the Gospel.

Sort of like, 'everyone in prison meets God'.

Please....!

Lees
I didnt say you were impatient. You asked why not kill em all since God is gonna do that in the end and my answer is 2 Peter 3.

The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward [c]us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

And as an example I gave that article.
 

Lees

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 16, 2022
Messages
2,182
Gender
Male
Religious Affiliation
Christian
Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed
Yes
I didnt say you were impatient. You asked why not kill em all since God is gonna do that in the end and my answer is 2 Peter 3.

The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward [c]us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

And as an example I gave that article.

No. I didn't say 'why not kill them all'. I said Israel needs to stop the ceasefire and get on with destroying the Gaza Strip. And if any bleeding hearts disagree, what do you think Jesus is going to do when He returns? And how many died in the flood....all but 8.

None of which changes any opportunity for any to come to Christ. Nations don't go to war based upon how many might come to Christ. People arn't sent to prison based on if they are Christian or not.

Tell me, what was God thinking when He destroyed all but 8 in the Flood? Did it matter to Him that all those souls might come to Him if He waited a little longer? Or, when Jesus returns and destroys many who were not killed during the Tribulation. Is He thinking about how many of these might have come to Him in faith? (Is. 63:1-6)

Neither you or I or any nation considers the 'patience of God' concerning salvation, when they go to war. And neither does God when He goes to war. In other words, just because some Muslims 'say' they have become Christians, doesn't mean anything as to the continuing of the war.

What the bleeding heart Gentiles are doing, in forcing Israel to ceasefires and 'don't hurt the civilians' policies, is making sure Israel won't win. They want a two state solution. And they are helping reinforce Hamas in the process. Helping the enemies of Israel. Insuring that Israel will always live under the threat of (Oct. 7), and that they will experience it again.

Lees
 
Top Bottom