Is Sabbath, Saturday or Sunday.

[MoreCoffee]

I don't care what the Catholic church does.

Yep, I was sure of that

 

[rstrats]

When North Americans are doing the Sabbath It is Sunday for me, so can I do the Sabbath on Sunday?

No, not if by Sunday you mean the 1st day of the week.

 

[MoreCoffee]

No, not if by Sunday you mean the 1st day of the week.

For me it is Sunday and 1st day when it is, for North Americans, Saturday and 7th day.
But it is the same time objectively speaking.
The self same moments in the universe.
So is it Sabbath for the whole of creation
Or just for a locale - like Jerusalem?

If all this Sabbath talk is about the commemoration of a specific 24 hour period
repeated every 7th 24 hour period.
Then isn't the 24 hours that God called the Sabbath the 24 hours of the
7th day in Sinai, where Israel was when the commandments were given?

Or is this all relative, as people say.
Relative to one's position on the surface of the spinning almost-spherical Earth?
If it is relative then pick any 24 hours you like and call it 7th day and Sabbath, right?
If it isn't relative and NEEDS to be the 7th day then it must be on Sinai time.
So what time is it in Sinai now?
When will Sabbath start?

 

[tango]

Yep, I was sure of that

Great job ignoring the context when quoting a post nearly two years old

 

[Albion]

Yep, I was sure of that

Apparently, neither of you cares what the Catholic Church does since she considers Saturday to be the Sabbath.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Great job ignoring the context when quoting a post nearly two years old

It seemed the right ting to do.

 

[tango]

ting

Did you become a bell?

 

[rstrats]

Or is this all relative, as people say.
Relative to one's position on the surface of the spinning almost-spherical Earth?
If it is relative then pick any 24 hours you like and call it 7th say and Sabbath, right?
If it isn't relative and NEEDS to be the 7th day then it must be on Sinai time.
So what time is it in Sinai now?
When will Sabbath start?

Does scripture discuss or allude to the fact that the Sabbath is to be kept according to Sinai or Jerusalem time or should it be kept according to one's local time? "ay, there’s the rub"

So far I haven't been successful in determining when it is to be observed, other than it is to be kept on the 7th day of the week.

 

[MoreCoffee]

So far I haven't been successful in determining when it is to be observed, other than it is to be kept on the 7th day of the week.

It is Sunday for me right now.
It will be Saturday for North Americans right now.
Is it Sabbath - 7th Day - right now?

 

[rstrats]

It is Sunday for me right now.

So does your calendar show where you are right now to be the seventh day of the week with the label of Sunday?

 

[MoreCoffee]

So does your calendar show where you are right now to be the seventh day of the week with the label of Sunday?

Is that a trick question?

 

[rstrats]

Is that a trick question?

No. The calendars in much of Europe and other parts of the world label the seventh day of the week Sunday.

 

[MoreCoffee]

No. The calendars in much of Europe and other parts of the world label the seventh day of the week Sunday.

My calendar shows today, Sunday, as the 24th of April.
Typical printed Calendars in Australia show Sunday as the last day of the week with Monday as the first day.
The days are not numbered, you can pretend that Monday is 1st day and count across to Sunday as 7th day.
But isn't it irrelevant what my calendar looks like?

 

[MoreCoffee]

PS: There are calendars with Sunday as the first day like this

 

[Stravinsk]

Whatever day one might be looking for, as an individual lost in time, only men, man made calendars and man made time keeping devices can show you. It doesn't matter if that day is Sunday, Saturday, Monday, Tuesday or any other day of the week.

The SDA's are proud of their Saturday observance. As the Catholics and many protestants are of their Sunday celebrations. But if one is lost in time, the Sun and stars cannot tell you where you are in the week. Only the moon is a faithful witness in the sky in this regard. Psalm 89:37

 

[rstrats]

PS: There are calendars with Sunday as the first day like this
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So which calendar do you go by?

 

[MoreCoffee]

So which calendar do you go by?

You make it sound like it matters.
I have a weekend with both Saturday and Sunday as the days of the weekend.
so I guess I count Monday as the start of the week and Saturday + Sunday as the weekend.
How about you?

 

[rstrats]

The calendar on my wall refers to the 1st day of the week as "Sunday".

 

[MoreCoffee]

The calendar on my wall refers to the 1st day of the week as "Sunday".

Wander down to the shops and buy one with Monday as first day.

You can get a calendar with every day of the week shown as first day in some month or other.

 

[rstrats]

You can get a calendar with every day of the week shown as first day in some month or other.

I can't quite put my finger on it, but I don't think that is correct. How about an example.