I do believe in the Trinity.

[Josiah]

the thing that sets me apart from you is that I have done what it takes to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost (Acts 2:38-39).

Wow.



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[justbyfaith]

I've seen others on different forums correct you on this. You refuse to listen.

If people attempt to correct me in a subjective manner...i.e. this is what we believe and you ought to believe the same way...

then I am not likely to be corrected in such a manner.

But if you can take a verse out of the kjv and show me that I am wrong, I will immediately change my point of view to fit what is written in the holy scriptures.

 

[Romanos]

If people attempt to correct me in a subjective manner...i.e. this is what we believe and you ought to believe the same way...

then I am not likely to be corrected in such a manner.

But if you can take a verse out of the kjv and show me that I am wrong, I will immediately change my point of view to fit what is written in the holy scriptures.

So in other words the Nicene Creed is flawed and the Church got it wrong at the First Ecumenical Council?

 

[justbyfaith]

Wow.

Yes, Josiah. Why is that amazing to you?

There is a conditional promise in Acts 2:38-29...

Fulfill the condition, receive the promise.

 

[justbyfaith]

So in other words the Nicene Creed is flawed and the Church got it wrong at the First Ecumenical Council?

I think that they had to compromise the truth in order to cater to certain parties involved.

When the Nicene creed states that Jesus is "uncreated" that is in contradiction to Romans 1:3 (kjv).

 

[Romanos]

I think that they had to compromise the truth in order to cater to certain parties involved.

When the Nicene creed states that Jesus is "uncreated" that is in contradiction to Romans 1:3 (kjv).

So then the Church Fathers who are affirmed and studied in the three major branches of Christianity, got it wrong and as such have perpetuated lies in the main Statement of Faith?

 

[justbyfaith]

So it’s your view against the Nicene Creed, something that has been around for nearly all of Christianity and supported by the majority of Christianity. The Nicene Creed is the Statement of Faith and will remain the way.

That is fine by me.

Romans 1:3 (kjv) is a part of my statement of faith and will remain that way.

You can harden your heart to what that scripture teaches to your heart's content.

 

[Romanos]

That is fine by me.

Romans 1:3 (kjv) is a part of my statement of faith and will remain that way.

You can harden your heart to what that scripture teaches to your heart's content.

That’s your opinion. But on here, the Nicene Creed is the Statement of Faith and remains that way. If you are going to persist and make comments of you feel persecuted and hardening of hearts, then it seems that you are here to not have positive discussion and rather an agenda of yours to speak about.

 

[justbyfaith]

So then the Church Fathers who are affirmed and studied in the three major branches of Christianity, got it wrong and as such have perpetuated lies in the main Statement of Faith?

The Nicene creed was written before the kjv was translated.

You would think that the translators of the kjv would have caught it as an error when they translated Romans 1:3 the way that they did...

Nevertheless, they stayed faithful to the meaning of the Greek text in that instance; even though the way that they translated it would bring their version to be in contradiction to the creeds in a specific manner.

 

[justbyfaith]

That’s your opinion. But on here, the Nicene Creed is the Statement of Faith and remains that way. If you are going to persist and make comments of you feel persecuted and hardening of hearts, then it seems that you are here to not have positive discussion and rather an agenda of yours to speak about.

Is it a sin to have an agenda to speak about?

 

[justbyfaith]

That’s your opinion. But on here, the Nicene Creed is the Statement of Faith and remains that way. If you are going to persist and make comments of you feel persecuted and hardening of hearts, then it seems that you are here to not have positive discussion and rather an agenda of yours to speak about.

I don't feel persecuted.

 

[Romanos]

The Nicene creed was written before the kjv was translated.

You would think that the translators of the kjv would have caught it as an error when they translated Romans 1:3 the way that they did...

Nevertheless, they stayed faithful to the meaning of the Greek in that instance; even though the way that they translated it would bring their version to be in contradiction to the creeds in a specific manner.

But they didn’t catch the so called error, which means they were in agreement of the truth within the Nicene Creed.

Is it a sin to have an agenda to speak about?

Your agenda aims to spread unorthodox Theology by way of calling the Nicene Creed false. And then you claimed by being out in the Non Trinitarian group, “persecution of righteousness”.

 

[Romanos]

I don't feel persecuted.

Your post earlier said so.

 

[justbyfaith]

Your post earlier said so.

Not exactly.

 

[Romanos]

So, I will count my being relegated to "the usergroup that you put me in" as "persecution for righteousness' sake".

Not exactly.

Right there.

 

[justbyfaith]

But they didn’t catch the so called error, which means they were in agreement of the truth within the Nicene Creed.

Your agenda aims to spread unorthodox Theology by way of calling the Nicene Creed false. And then you claimed by being out in the Non Trinitarian group, “persecution of righteousness”.

I am a Trinitarian (I believe in three distinct Persons in the Godhead).

It was not an error the way they translated Romans 1:3 in the kjv.

It would have been an error if the Nicene and Athanasian creeds were correct in saying that Jesus is "uncreated".

But they were being faithful to the meaning of the original Greek text when they translated G1096 as "made"

 

[justbyfaith]

Right there.

That says nothing of "feeling", friend.

 

[Romanos]

If there is any disagreement with the Nicene Creed, then you wouldn’t be one who subscribes to it.

 

[Romanos]

That says nothing of "feeling", friend.

Even then, why bring up persecution?

 

[Lamb]

I don't feel persecuted.

That's because you aren't be persecuted. You came to this site and agreed to its terms when you registered. We accept the Nicene Creed and Trinity (according that creed) as our Statement of Faith. So you see, you came here to persecute US.