Hundreds of Lawyers Descend Upon Airports

[Lamb]

As far as this thread is going I see no one mad at Trump.

No one here is talking about hate. My niece was showing love.

My post was in response to how the President was doing the same thing that other Presidents have done in the past and people did not protest the other Presidents at the time but they protest Trump.

 

[Ruth]

My post was in response to how the President was doing the same thing that other Presidents have done in the past and people did not protest the other Presidents at the time but they protest Trump.

Oh, okay.

 

[Josiah]

You won't find it in any American newspaper... but our local paper does have a section where news from OTHER (non-USA) papers are briefly quoted. I often look those over because often our USA papers are curiously silent on this. Anyway, today, I read an brief snippet from "The Irish Times" from Dublin. Turns out of the handful of countries where Trump has put a 120 day "hold" (until a permanent policy can be set up), all 16 of those countries have a total ban on Israelis.... all citizens of Israel are entirely banned from all 16 of those countries -no matter what. In fact in some of them, there's a ban if the person is not Israeli but has BEEN to that country. Funny to have those countries shout about mean Trump when they do the same thing - permanently.

 

[Stravinsk]

You won't find it in any American newspaper... but our local paper does have a section where news from OTHER (non-USA) papers are briefly quoted. I often look those over because often our USA papers are curiously silent on this. Anyway, today, I read an brief snippet from "The Irish Times" from Dublin. Turns out of the handful of countries where Trump has put a 120 day "hold" (until a permanent policy can be set up), all 16 of those countries have a total ban on Israelis.... all citizens of Israel are entirely banned from all 16 of those countries -no matter what. In fact in some of them, there's a ban if the person is not Israeli but has BEEN to that country. Funny to have those countries shout about mean Trump when they do the same thing - permanently.

That's interesting if true. Can you quote the article please and the source material used?

Honestly, I think people really need to awaken to what has happened in some parts of Europe before they are too quick to rush out with open arms.

"Islamaphobia" is a buzz word that implies people who dislike Islam - it's teachings, primarily - are either un or misinformed, bigots and/or racists.

No - we know enough of the religion to know people who adhere to it's teachings are not going to assimilate. They will breed and convert until they get what they want - which is the whole world under their sick religious system that publicly declares policies that are in line with Western thought (such as the equality of men and women) - but privately teach completely different dogma.

The woman who snapped at me in this thread may not even be aware that had I been a relation in a Muslim culture - I could beat her for it, pour acid on her, disfigure her - have her raped repeatedly and get away with it all (in islam - rape needs 4 MALE witnesses...so lacking that - too bad so sad).

To me it's just sheer dumb or lack of knowledge of what what Islam really teaches and practices in areas where they are the majority.

I personally don't want to pay the Jizya or be classed as a "half citizen" with less rights simply on my lack of faith in Islam. And that is their goal. The religion is not compatible with peace, and it certainly is not compatible with religious freedom.

 

[MoreCoffee]

You won't find it in any American newspaper... but our local paper does have a section where news from OTHER (non-USA) papers are briefly quoted. I often look those over because often our USA papers are curiously silent on this. Anyway, today, I read an brief snippet from "The Irish Times" from Dublin. Turns out of the handful of countries where Trump has put a 120 day "hold" (until a permanent policy can be set up), all 16 of those countries have a total ban on Israelis.... all citizens of Israel are entirely banned from all 16 of those countries -no matter what. In fact in some of them, there's a ban if the person is not Israeli but has BEEN to that country. Funny to have those countries shout about mean Trump when they do the same thing - permanently.

Bad government in various nations exucses bad government in another?

The people affacted by bans are not the people who run the government; most are ordinary people. So how does the wickedness of various national governments make it good to exclude the people who come from those countries?

 

[tango]

Bad government in various nations exucses bad government in another?

The people affacted by bans are not the people who run the government; most are ordinary people. So how does the wickedness of various national governments make it good to exclude the people who come from those countries?

What is interesting is to see reports of people like the Mayor of London who, it would appear, is very vocal against Donald Trump's ban on immigrants but doesn't seem to see an issue with meeting with leaders of countries who do ban Israelis. Let me see if I still have the email from my Jewish friend in London who sent me an interesting update on it.

One bad government does not excuse another but it does highlight a double standard if people protest one injustice while totally ignoring an identical one.

 

[Brighten04]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QoHB5sRhaA

 

[MoreCoffee]

What is interesting is to see reports of people like the Mayor of London who, it would appear, is very vocal against Donald Trump's ban on immigrants but doesn't seem to see an issue with meeting with leaders of countries who do ban Israelis. Let me see if I still have the email from my Jewish friend in London who sent me an interesting update on it.

One bad government does not excuse another but it does highlight a double standard if people protest one injustice while totally ignoring an identical one.

One who is living on the Earth cannot be so separated from the world as to be out of it entirely. I don't really see why the Mayor of London ought to refuse to meet with Arab governments that prohibit Israelis from entering their countries. I observed to Josiah that many bad governments doesn't make an excuse to create another bad government.

 

[Rens]

http://ijr.com/wildfire/2017/02/794...ium=owned&utm_campaign=ods&utm_term=ijamerica

 

[tango]

One who is living on the Earth cannot be so separated from the world as to be out of it entirely. I don't really see why the Mayor of London ought to refuse to meet with Arab governments that prohibit Israelis from entering their countries. I observed to Josiah that many bad governments doesn't make an excuse to create another bad government.

One bad government doesn't make it right to create another bad government. That's not the issue here. The issue is that a man protesting a ban on Muslims entering one country who then wines and dines leaders from other countries with long-term ban on Israelis entering their country does rather lay himself open to charges of hypocrisy, no?

If he were to meet with Arab leaders and discuss his objection to their ban on Israelis while also meeting with Donald Trump and discussins his objection to Trump's ban on Muslims that would be one thing. But this particular course of action appears to be saying that it's fine to ban Jews but not Muslims.