How do Orthodox Christians calculate which day is Good Friday?

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I won't say names out of respect to avoid drama, but I was very shocked and extremely peeved that they would make a statement like this.

It's the second time you've mentioned it so you must be very peeved ...

Maybe you need to do this ... :smashfreakb:
 

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It's the second time you've mentioned it so you must be very peeved ...

Maybe you need to do this ... :smashfreakb:

LOL I bet he'd love to do that!
 

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lol:swordfight:
 

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I would like to submit two points.


1. The appointed feasts given to Israel were an integral part of the Law given to Israel. Therefore, any attempt to isolate them for observance by Christians in the absence of the rest of the Law, is an invalidity.


2. Unless I've missed it, nobody has yet presented Jesus' thought, in fact Jesus' actual command, regarding when and how the remembrance of his death should be conducted.

What did Jesus command?

1 Corinthians 11:23-25 (emphasis added):
23 For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was betrayed took bread;
24 And giving thanks, He broke [it] and said, Take, eat; this is My body, which is broken for you; this do in remembrance of Me.
25 In the same way [He took] the cup also, after supping, saying, This cup is the New Covenant in My blood; as often as you drink it, do this in remembrance of Me.
The simple and obvious question is, what were they drinking?

The simple and obvious answer defines unequivocally what the Master ordered, and therefore what He stated He requires of those who claim to be His followers.

Before any attempt is made to water down what the Master commanded by asking why the Gospel writers did not mention the future time cycle, let me point something out. Such a question would actually have the opposite effect – it would strengthen the case instead.

The fact that Gospel writers did not feel the need to mention those particular words of Jesus, demonstrates that the remembrance was customarily being carried out as their Master had commanded. However, the risen Master specifically and personally instructed His chosen apostle Paul in the matter.

Paul, under divine inspiration, passed on Jesus' specific instruction as being of significant importance. Paul could probably already see the emerging pagan influences in the Church, and realised why his Master had instructed him as He had.

So, is anyone willing to correctly identify publicly [[edit add]] (i.e. in this thread) [[end edit]] what Jesus and His disciples were drinking at the “Last Supper”?

And thus reveal when and how the remembrance of His death should be conducted according to Him.

(I would suggest that denominational loyalty would prevent most “Christians” from issuing that public identification, even if they realised what in fact that liquid was.

But let's see.)
 
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I would like to submit two points.
  1. The appointed feasts given to Israel were an integral part of the Law given to Israel. Therefore, any attempt to isolate them for observance by Christians in the absence of the rest of the Law, is an invalidity.
  2. Unless I've missed it, nobody has yet presented Jesus' thought, in fact Jesus' actual command, regarding when and how the remembrance of his death should be conducted.
What did Jesus command?
1 Corinthians 11:23-25 (emphasis added):
23 For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was betrayed took bread;
24 And giving thanks, He broke [it] and said, Take, eat; this is My body, which is broken for you; this do in remembrance of Me.
25 In the same way [He took] the cup also, after supping, saying, This cup is the New Covenant in My blood; as often as you drink it, do this in remembrance of Me.
The simple and obvious question is, what were they drinking?The simple and obvious answer defines unequivocally what the Master ordered, and therefore what He stated He requires of those who claim to be His followers.

Before any attempt is made to water down what the Master commanded by asking why the Gospel writers did not mention the future time cycle, let me point something out. Such a question would actually have the opposite effect – it would strengthen the case instead. The fact that Gospel writers did not feel the need to mention those particular words of Jesus, demonstrates that the remembrance was customarily being carried out as their Master had commanded. However, the risen Master specifically and personally instructed His chosen apostle Paul in the matter.

Paul, under divine inspiration, passed on Jesus' specific instruction as being of significant importance. Paul could probably already see the emerging pagan influences in the Church, and realised why his Master had instructed him as He had. So, is anyone willing to correctly identify publicly [[edit add]] (i.e. in this thread) [[end edit]] what Jesus and His disciples were drinking at the “Last Supper”? And thus reveal when and how the remembrance of His death should be conducted according to Him.

(I would suggest that denominational loyalty would prevent most “Christians” from issuing that public identification, even if they realised what in fact that liquid was. But let's see.)
They were drinking wine that the Lord said was the new covenant in his blood. It is the blood of Christ that they drank and thus consumed the sacrificial blood that gives life to those who drink it. The Lord Jesus Christ explained with these words:
Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; he who comes to me shall not hunger, and he who believes in me shall never thirst. But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. All that the Father gives me will come to me; and him who comes to me I will not cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me; and this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up at the last day. For this is the will of my Father, that every one who sees the Son and believes in him should have eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day." (John 6:35-40)

"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life. I am the bread of life. Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that a man may eat of it and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven; if any one eats of this bread, he will live for ever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh." (John 6:47-51)

"Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me. This is the bread which came down from heaven, not such as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live for ever." (John 6:53-58)​
 

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Dont know but it is wrong
 

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Good Friday, as a day to remember it is fine as an actual day when the crucifixtion took place no
 

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Good Friday, as a day to remember it is fine as an actual day when the crucifixion took place no

Obviously the one and only day on which the crucifixion took place was a Friday almost two thousand years ago.
 

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we will agree tio disagree Friday is not right, just the church thinks it is
 

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we will agree to disagree Friday is not right, just the church thinks it is

I like what the Church teaches because what the Church teaches is the teaching of Christ.
 

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Oh wow, not even close. Christ wiould come against a lot of teachings of the chruch
 

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Believe what you will, I am sure the Pharasees did not believe it either
 

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It's now Holy Week! :D
 

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Have a blessed Holy Week George
 

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A Blessed Holy Week to you George.
 

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Yours falls close to Passover, at least a lot closer than ours
 

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Yours falls close to Passover, at least a lot closer than ours

Yes, our Easter will always be centered around the date of Passover. :)
 
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