God Does NOT Heal All - CHRISTIAN Discussion

[Alithis]

Surely GOD is utterly faithful to his word. It is man that isn't faithful to GOD. My point was that one can rightly expect to be healed and any other thing that they ask of GOD if it is of gods will that they utterly follow as sons of GOD. Again one isn't both of GOD and of Satan so if one is not utterly faithful to GOD then they are not of GOD and as such indeed should expect naught from GOD until repentance and clear conscience are within the saved.

I'm thirty five with worse arthritis than most twice my age. I heve approximately 50% lung capacity and a death sentence of copd. I have a giant cell tumor holding my right arm on instead of a shoulder. Yet I have been healed and was as dead before salvation. I know that I am dying yet am thankful to GOD for ever day, and every affliction. Do I think GOD can utterly heal me? Of course. Do I think that he should? No, for all His promises pertaining to healing also pertain to the Holy, and though I strive daily to follow the teachings of Christ and the conscience, I still knowingly sin. I believe all GOD's promises. But to partake in such one must be utterly faithful.

Where in scripture does it specify physical healing? Not that I think GOD wouldn't or couldn't, just don't recall seeing it in scripture myself.

Thanks,

Peace

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

where in scripture does it NOT specify physical healing .. they are not separate things . we see that so many times .. the demon is cast out and the result is,the person is healed .so we see all the time that the spiritual effects the physical .

 

[tango]

Nah.your trying tobuild a theology on nothing but assumptions.
Im never going to buy into that.

Are you for real?

I present an argument that looks at a verse and assesses it in the light of verses that apparently conflict, looking to find a resolution.

You present one possible meaning as if it were the only one and ignore verses that apparently conflict.

Then you claim that I'm the one building a theology on nothing but assumptions? What was it you said about Timothy and his "frequent infirmities"? What about Paul boasting in his infirmities? The only way you address them is to - oh yes - assume that they aren't what they look like.

You dont annul the word of God by pointing youe assumptions about 2 cases.

I never said I was annulling the word of God. I'm looking to explain it without assuming that something has one meaning when it could quite easily have another.

We know its Gods will to heal.jesus said Go and heal the sick... Why would he tell us to do the opposite of his will.

You're mixing bad logic with good here. Nobody is saying it's not God's will to heal. What I'm saying (as I said before, but you conveniently ignored) is that I don't believe it's always God's will to heal. The two are so totally different, but "God never heals" is a nice easy strawman to refute.

Its his will to heal. His promises.

Care to explain why, without merely plucking a single verse or two and ignoring verses that suggest something else?

As with all his promises..they are not entered into for one reason the scripture also plainly states.
Unbelief! .

Of course God generally doesn't keep the promises he didn't make in the first place.

From thereon ,its just attempts to justify unbelief. I wont go there. Gods word is true and he is faithful to it. My experience may be thar i presently did not see my wife get healed.... Does this change gods word ?NO.
But my experience can change. So i do not build a theology based on my changable experinces.. But upon the unchanging word of God.

I'm not interested in justifying unbelief, but if all you're going to do is throw strawmen you're never going to get very far along the reasoning process. I've seen enough of the supernatural (both good and evil) to know without any doubt at all that these things can and do happen. That still doesn't mean every single time I pray for healing it happens. I've seen someone in ICU on the verge of death (to the point their family were called) recover almost overnight and see cancer disappear from their body along the way. I've seen other people prayed for multiple times and still their bodies are wracked with infirmities. What's the difference? Maybe some are called, as Paul, to rejoice in their infirmities because when they are weak God is strong.

For the record, I personally know a woman in her 60s who has been disabled since birth and who is now all but confined to an electric wheelchair (she doesn't even have the strength in her arms to push a regular wheelchair). She thanks God for her infirmities because, in her words, God can use her in ways he couldn't if she were fully able-bodied. Like Paul, she recognises that when she is weak God can be strong in her.

 

[tango]

where in scripture does it NOT specify physical healing .. they are not separate things . we see that so many times .. the demon is cast out and the result is,the person is healed .so we see all the time that the spiritual effects the physical .

Sure, sometimes a physical ailment can be the result of a spiritual oppression. But unless you're really going to assume that every single illness and infirmity is best treated with an exorcism you can only take that so far.

It's the whole "all apples are fruits, but not all fruits are apples" argument.

 

[Alithis]

Are you for real?

I present an argument that looks at a verse and assesses it in the light of verses that apparently conflict, looking to find a resolution.

You present one possible meaning as if it were the only one and ignore verses that apparently conflict.

Then you claim that I'm the one building a theology on nothing but assumptions? What was it you said about Timothy and his "frequent infirmities"? What about Paul boasting in his infirmities? The only way you address them is to - oh yes - assume that they aren't what they look like.



I never said I was annulling the word of God. I'm looking to explain it without assuming that something has one meaning when it could quite easily have another.



You're mixing bad logic with good here. Nobody is saying it's not God's will to heal. What I'm saying (as I said before, but you conveniently ignored) is that I don't believe it's always God's will to heal. The two are so totally different, but "God never heals" is a nice easy strawman to refute.



Care to explain why, without merely plucking a single verse or two and ignoring verses that suggest something else?



Of course God generally doesn't keep the promises he didn't make in the first place.



I'm not interested in justifying unbelief, but if all you're going to do is throw strawmen you're never going to get very far along the reasoning process. I've seen enough of the supernatural (both good and evil) to know without any doubt at all that these things can and do happen. That still doesn't mean every single time I pray for healing it happens. I've seen someone in ICU on the verge of death (to the point their family were called) recover almost overnight and see cancer disappear from their body along the way. I've seen other people prayed for multiple times and still their bodies are wracked with infirmities. What's the difference? Maybe some are called, as Paul, to rejoice in their infirmities because when they are weak God is strong.

For the record, I personally know a woman in her 60s who has been disabled since birth and who is now all but confined to an electric wheelchair (she doesn't even have the strength in her arms to push a regular wheelchair). She thanks God for her infirmities because, in her words, God can use her in ways he couldn't if she were fully able-bodied. Like Paul, she recognises that when she is weak God can be strong in her.

The. Problem is still the same.

It does not say paul was sick. Its an assumption .and a poor one .it specificly states the issue was a messenger from satan sent to buffet him.

It does not say timothy had some incurable disease.. Its an assumption .
Wine used for digestive aid is very common place . does not mean he was sick .

We cant take two assumed examples and build any theology on them .
We just cannot. Not only is it not building on the rock..its less then building on sand..its like building on hot air ...
Build on what we do have..
Theycame to jesus... And he healed them every one.
So... Its his will toheal all
So ..he sent us to do so
So ..A- He got somthing wrong
B -we are getting something wrong.

Hint - its NOT .A.

 

[Lamb]

It does not say timothy had some incurable disease.. Its an assumption .
Wine used for digestive aid is very common place . does not mean he was sick .

You might want to investigate that again. It does say Timothy had frequent ailments (or illnesses or infirmities depending on the translation).

1 Timothy 5:23

 

[Alithis]

You might want to investigate that again. It does say Timothy had frequent ailments (or illnesses or infirmities depending on the translation).

1 Timothy 5:23

but your missing the point ...
Is it gods will to heal all who come tohim for healing?
And the answer is in the question.. Is it gods will to save all who come to him for saving... For it is one and the same saviour by whose striped we were healed.

Using timothy..who we dont know at all whether he was just had a bit of a dietry accidity problem when he ate foods of the culture he was ministering in... (Also an assumtion) is like saying.. Because my uncle was not saved... God doesnt save. Which is absurd also. But thats the frailty of building a doctrine on timothies case .its all assumptions .
So best move on and look at what the scriptures say throughout the entirity of them ,rather than throw out all scripture because young tim had an upset stomach after curry.

 

[psalms 91]

but your missing the point ...
Is it gods will to heal all who come tohim for healing?
And the answer is in the question.. Is it gods will to save all who come to him for saving... For it is one and the same saviour by whose striped we were healed.

Using timothy..who we dont know at all whether he was just had a bit of a dietry accidity problem when he ate foods of the culture he was ministering in... (Also an assumtion) is like saying.. Because my uncle was not saved... God doesnt save. Which is absurd also. But thats the frailty of building a doctrine on timothies case .its all assumptions .
So best move on and look at what the scriptures say throughout the entirity of them ,rather than throw out all scripture because young tim had an upset stomach after curry.

It is Gods will to heal, why because He is good and can do no evil

 

[Rens]

because young tim had an upset stomach after curry.

That was funny.
:;-D:

 

[Lamb]

That was funny.
:;-D:

Yeah, it's funny but it's not what scripture says. It diminishes what IS said to avoid seeing that Timothy had frequent ailments and was not healed.

 

[tango]

The. Problem is still the same.

It does not say paul was sick. Its an assumption .and a poor one .it specificly states the issue was a messenger from satan sent to buffet him.

Paul also says he will "boast in (his) infirmities", which suggests that he either had, or reasonably expected to have, infirmities. Why would he boast in them rather than claim the healing that was allegedly promised?

It does not say timothy had some incurable disease.. Its an assumption .
Wine used for digestive aid is very common place . does not mean he was sick .

So why did Paul refer to his "frequent infirmities"? Nobody said it was an incurable disease, I don't know where that came from. The fact is Paul referred to taking wine for his "frequent infirmities" rather than telling him to claim the healing that was apparently promised.

We cant take two assumed examples and build any theology on them .
We just cannot. Not only is it not building on the rock..its less then building on sand..its like building on hot air ...

That's exactly what you're doing when you pull verses like Is 53:5 and ignore verses that appear to be in conflict with them. We need to see the whole message of Scripture to determine what promises God actually made. If you really want to make up a promise and stand on it even if God never made the problem that's certainly your prerogative but don't be surprised if God doesn't honor the promises he never actually made.

Build on what we do have..
Theycame to jesus... And he healed them every one.
So... Its his will toheal all
So ..he sent us to do so
So ..A- He got somthing wrong
B -we are getting something wrong.

The fact God does something for a time doesn't mean he will continue to do it for evermore. When I dressed up as Santa Claus many years ago I gave every child who came to me a present. That doesn't mean that any child could come to me now, when I'm not dressed as Santa Claus and I'm not sitting in a grotto (and it's July rather than December) and expect to be given a gift just for the asking. I did it then, I don't necessarily do it now. I do still give gifts to children today but not in the same way I did when I dressed as Santa. I give my nieces and nephews presents, I sometimes give presents to my friends' children. Every once in a while I'm aware a single mother in my church may struggle to fund presents for her children at times they might be expected, so myself and a few others sometimes take turns to make sure the kids at least have something to unwrap (and we've got a way of doing it anonymously so she doesn't know where they come from).

What you're doing here is taking an example and assuming it is universal. That doesn't always work. If you ask someone for a piece of fruit 100 times and get 100 apples that doesn't mean that every time anyone asks them for fruit they will get an apple.

Hint - its NOT .A.

Nope, it's definitely B. We're getting something wrong. I think I've made it pretty clear what I think is wrong.

It's interesting to see you still think I'm building a theology on assumptions when all you're doing is basically saying "Jesus did this for a time, so let's assume believe he'll continue to do it any time we ask".

 

[Rens]

Yeah, it's funny but it's not what scripture says. It diminishes what IS said to avoid seeing that Timothy had frequent ailments and was not healed.

Even if the text says that he had a disease and drank a little wine as a cure, so what? Paul left someone sick at Milete or something. So what? Then because they were sick all of a sudden the texts that God is a Healer doesn't count anymore? I don't know why they were sick. Unbelief? No idea. I don't care either. Like Frances Hunter said: the first person she prayed for died. Why? Who cares? Next.
Otherwise you don't even believe and pray for the sick anymore. Oh so and so was sick. Well I wonder what God will do now.
My ex/ pastor always says: you have people and they say: hmm well I wonder if I will get healed.
Then he says: yes me too if you talk like that.

 

[tango]

but your missing the point ...
Is it gods will to heal all who come tohim for healing?
And the answer is in the question.. Is it gods will to save all who come to him for saving... For it is one and the same saviour by whose striped we were healed.

Using timothy..who we dont know at all whether he was just had a bit of a dietry accidity problem when he ate foods of the culture he was ministering in... (Also an assumtion) is like saying.. Because my uncle was not saved... God doesnt save. Which is absurd also. But thats the frailty of building a doctrine on timothies case .its all assumptions .

You've done a pretty good job of making my point for me.

Since what I thought was pretty clearly stated obviously isn't getting through, let's look at some basic logic.

The opposite of "God always heals" is not "God never heals", it is "God doesn't always heal". One single instance of God not healing someone is all that is needed to prove "God always heals" is false.

The opposite of "God never heals" is not "God always heals", it is "God heals". One single instance of God healing is all that is needed to prove "God never heals" is false.

"God sometimes heals" is a perfectly valid alternative to "God always heals" or "God never heals". As I've said several times now, I believe God sometimes heals. Therefore I reject the assumption that God always heals (which isn't borne out by evidence) and likewise reject the assumption that God never heals (which also isn't borne out by evidence).

Your example of your uncle merely proves you're not getting this concept. Your uncle wasn't saved, therefore God doesn't always save. It doesn't prove "God doesn't save", it proves God doesn't always save. In other words some are saved and some are not.

In the same way Timothy not being healed doesn't prove "God doesn't heal", it proves "God doesn't always heal". The two are still as different as when I first mentioned it. If you look past "always" and "never" there's a whole world in between.

So best move on and look at what the scriptures say throughout the entirity of them ,rather than throw out all scripture because young tim had an upset stomach after curry.

I'm not sure when having an upset stomach after eating a curry counted as "frequent infirmities". If it was a constant digestive issue maybe poor Timothy should have thought to claim healing for his affliction. Maybe Paul forgot to mention that.

Funny to see you still assuming that Paul boasting in his infirmities doesn't mean he was infirm, and Paul talking of Timothy's frequent infirmities doesn't mean Timothy had any illnesses, and then telling us we should look at the entirety of Scripture.

 

[Josiah]

There's a number of Scriptures here......

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Some of MY thoughts......



Is sickness God’s desire, His will?

It’s not easy an easy question. His PRIMARY (unconditional) will is clearly that we have life – physical and spiritual. We can see that from the Garden where Adam and Eve had no sickness, no aging, no death. We can see that from the many Scriptures that speak of God desiring health for us and the great lengths He went to secure eternal life for us, we can see that from the many miracles of healing in the Bible (at least 33 specific cases recorded in the four Gospels by Jesus). His SECONDARY (conditional) will is …. complex. Clearly sickness and death happen so at least God permits it. As we’ll see, He may even use it for His purposes in this fallen world.


Don’t take it personally!


Decay, sickness, death (indeed, all suffering) are aspects of “the Fall” and impact all Creation (even plants and animals). Sickness, decay, death are the result of sin (in the sense that they are a part of the Fallenness of Creation), but not necessarily the result of any specific sin by any specific person.

John 9:2-3 ____________________________________________________________________

Jeremiah 14:1-3 _______________________________________________________________

Romans 8:38-39 _______________________________________________________________

Romans 8:20-22 _______________________________________________________________


God cares for the sick and dying….

Deuteronomy 31:6 _________________________________________________________________

Psalm 23:4-6 _____________________________________________________________________.

2 Corinthians 1:3-4 ________________________________________________________________

Philippians 4:6-7 __________________________________________________________________

1 Peter 5:7 _______________________________________________________________________

Romans 8:38-39 __________________________________________________________________

1 Peter 1:3 ______________________________________________________________________


God heals

Psalm 34:19 _____________________________________________________________________

Psalm 43:3 ______________________________________________________________________

Psalm 104:2-4 ___________________________________________________________________

Matthew 8:5-7 ___________________________________________________________________

Matthew 12:15 ___________________________________________________________________

Matthew 14:14 ___________________________________________________________________

Luke 8:49-56 ____________________________________________________________________


The role of faith and prayer

Mark 5:34 ______________________________________________________________________

Luke 8:48 ______________________________________________________________________

James 5:15 _____________________________________________________________________

Matthew 7:7-11 __________________________________________________________________


God may heal unbelievers, too

Any M.D. or hospital can confirm that non-Christians are often healed, too – so experience confirms that God’s healing mercy is not limited to His believing children.

Matthew 5:43-47 ________________________________________________________________
God instructs us to love our enemies and do well to them, can He do less than He demands of us? God’s love is unconditional…..

Mark 6:5-6 _____________________________________________________________________

Acts 10:38 _____________________________________________________________________



God may heal us indirectly/mediately - through means or through others

John 9:1-7 ______________________________________________________________________
Might He also use medication, surgery, etc.? Is it still His miracle?

Acts 28:8 _______________________________________________________________________


God does not always heal (even great believers; at least not this side of heaven)
Indeed, ultimately everyone dies (sorry; it’s just true)

2 Corinthians 12:7-9 ____________________________________________________________


God may not heal but USE our sickness for good (of us and/or others)
He may heal us and use THAT for our good, too!

2 Corinthians 12:6-10 ____________________________________________________________

Romans 5:1-5 _________________________________________________________________

2 Corinthians 1:8-11 ____________________________________________________________

Romans 8:28 __________________________________________________________________


Why does God sometimes heal and sometimes not?
Of course, God EVENTUALLY heals us in heaven; healing DOES come….in His time.

Scripture does not answer this question. “Answers” fall into 3 categories:

1. God's Soverignty. Our Reformed brothers and sisters quickly go to this. God is God, His ways are not our ways and often are beyond our knowledge and need to know. God is true and faithful - but He does this according to His will. God is gloried by our healing but also by our sickness and death. It's about God's glory.

2. Our Unworthiness. Our "Evangelical" and Catholic brothers and sisters often go to this. OUR unworthiness sadly "trumps" God's Gospel. There is a lack of faith on our part that renders God impotent (or simply unwilling or simply means we can't apprehend the healing). And/or there is some unrepentant (and perhaps persistent) sin that renders God impotent or simply means we are lack the required level of merit for the healing. It's our fault.

3. Mystery of the Cross. Lutheran and Orthodox brothers and sisters often go here. We simply do not know. God is always faithful.... and our unworthiness or sinfulness doesn't render Him impotent (since ALL are unworthy, ALL are sinful), God's mercy is unconditional. His heart is working here – but in ways we cannot always “see.” We simply cannot answer the question.... there likely are aspects to all this unknown to us but fully known to God. It's mystery. #3 is very similar to #1 but while the first stresses God’s sovereignty and glory, # 3 stresses God’s heart.



My half cent (My Bible Study for my youth class this Sunday)



Pax Christi



- Josiah

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[Lamb]

Even if the text says that he had a disease and drank a little wine as a cure, so what? Paul left someone sick at Milete or something. So what? Then because they were sick all of a sudden the texts that God is a Healer doesn't count anymore? I don't know why they were sick. Unbelief? No idea. I don't care either. Like Frances Hunter said: the first person she prayed for died. Why? Who cares? Next.
Otherwise you don't even believe and pray for the sick anymore. Oh so and so was sick. Well I wonder what God will do now.
My ex/ pastor always says: you have people and they say: hmm well I wonder if I will get healed.
Then he says: yes me too if you talk like that.

Doesn't it prove (since Timothy was not healed of his ailments) the title of this thread that God does not heal All Christians? We will be healed at the resurrection, but scripture has shown that not all were healed as they lived on earth.

 

[Josiah]

Doesn't it prove (since Timothy was not healed of his ailments) the title of this thread that God does not heal All Christians? We will be healed at the resurrection, but scripture has shown that not all were healed as they lived on earth.

I think this observation is OBVIOUS from just living with eyes open.... and from Scripture.

 

[tango]

Even if the text says that he had a disease and drank a little wine as a cure, so what? Paul left someone sick at Milete or something. So what? Then because they were sick all of a sudden the texts that God is a Healer doesn't count anymore? I don't know why they were sick. Unbelief? No idea. I don't care either. Like Frances Hunter said: the first person she prayed for died. Why? Who cares? Next.
Otherwise you don't even believe and pray for the sick anymore. Oh so and so was sick. Well I wonder what God will do now.
My ex/ pastor always says: you have people and they say: hmm well I wonder if I will get healed.
Then he says: yes me too if you talk like that.

This is just yet another post that makes the case that the opposite of "God always heals" is not "God never heals". God heals some of the time, just not all of the time. We can believe that God can and does heal without assuming he's going to do it every time. It shouldn't stop us asking, but maybe we shouldn't be too quick to assume God will pull a miracle every time.

If we pray for one and they aren't healed it shouldn't stop us praying for the next. But those who subscribe to the "God always heals" teachings need to figure out why God didn't heal, which is where some of the really unhelpful blamestorming comes into play. If God didn't heal, whose fault was it? Some would insist that the person not healed was at fault, a classic form of victim-blaming. Some would say that the person praying lacked the faith which, in some instances, is demonstrably absurd. Of course if we can accept that God heals some of the time but not all of the time (i.e. the premise "God always heals" is as false as the premise "God never heals") we need do none of this, we can just accept that it wasn't God's will to heal this one and still move on to pray for another one.

 

[Rens]

This is just yet another post that makes the case that the opposite of "God always heals" is not "God never heals". God heals some of the time, just not all of the time. We can believe that God can and does heal without assuming he's going to do it every time. It shouldn't stop us asking, but maybe we shouldn't be too quick to assume God will pull a miracle every time.

If we pray for one and they aren't healed it shouldn't stop us praying for the next. But those who subscribe to the "God always heals" teachings need to figure out why God didn't heal, which is where some of the really unhelpful blamestorming comes into play. If God didn't heal, whose fault was it? Some would insist that the person not healed was at fault, a classic form of victim-blaming. Some would say that the person praying lacked the faith which, in some instances, is demonstrably absurd. Of course if we can accept that God heals some of the time but not all of the time (i.e. the premise "God always heals" is as false as the premise "God never heals") we need do none of this, we can just accept that it wasn't God's will to heal this one and still move on to pray for another one.

But then you still want an explanation why it didn't happen. 'It wasn't God's will.' Unless He specifically said so, how do you know? And the Bible never says that Jesus said to someone: No, sorry, for you it's not My will. Maybe just accept it if someone wasn't healed and move on, without blaming the one who was sick or the one who prayed or saying God didn't want it. LOL David Wagner preached here once. He said there was a 'who cares?' anointing hahahahahahaha.

 

[Lamb]

But then you still want an explanation why it didn't happen. 'It wasn't God's will.' Unless He specifically said so, how do you know? And the Bible never says that Jesus said to someone: No, sorry, for you it's not My will. Maybe just accept it if someone wasn't healed and move on, without blaming the one who was sick or the one who prayed or saying God didn't want it. LOL David Wagner preached here once. He said there was a 'who cares?' anointing hahahahahahaha.

Didn't Jesus leave his own town without sticking around to heal everyone?

God uses our infirmities. When I broke my arm, God used that even to His purpose. I didn't realize it right away but it really gave light not too much long after. He allows us to be hurt and allows us to be ill. People die from being hurt and being ill. He didn't heal them. But He WILL heal the Christians when He comes again and we are resurrected and given new bodies. Of this we are promised and He will keep that promise.

 

[tango]

But then you still want an explanation why it didn't happen. 'It wasn't God's will.' Unless He specifically said so, how do you know? And the Bible never says that Jesus said to someone: No, sorry, for you it's not My will. Maybe just accept it if someone wasn't healed and move on, without blaming the one who was sick or the one who prayed or saying God didn't want it. LOL David Wagner preached here once. He said there was a 'who cares?' anointing hahahahahahaha.

The crucial difference is that if you don't assume it's always God's will to heal then you don't need an explanation for why someone wasn't healed. We might figure that maybe it wasn't God's will, maybe it wasn't God's will just yet, or maybe there's some other reason. The trouble is that if you assume it's always God's will to heal then you need to find a reason why someone wasn't healed.

Your reasoning here is continuing to take an example and assume it's universal. I already addressed that with my analogy of the time I dressed as Santa Claus for a children's party. I handed out gifts like candy at that party but that doesn't mean any child can come to me any time they want and expect to get a gift from me. They can come to me and ask but a lot of them are going to be disappointed.

I'm not the one blaming people who aren't healed, I can freely accept that God chose not to heal them for some reason. I don't need to know the reason.

If you believe it's always God's will to heal it becomes more important to figure out why someone wasn't healed, because "it wasn't God's will ceases to be an option". And, if what passes for reasoning among some who push this teaching is anything to go by, about all that is left is to blame either the sick person or the person praying.

 

[Rens]

The crucial difference is that if you don't assume it's always God's will to heal then you don't need an explanation for why someone wasn't healed. We might figure that maybe it wasn't God's will, maybe it wasn't God's will just yet, or maybe there's some other reason. The trouble is that if you assume it's always God's will to heal then you need to find a reason why someone wasn't healed.

Your reasoning here is continuing to take an example and assume it's universal. I already addressed that with my analogy of the time I dressed as Santa Claus for a children's party. I handed out gifts like candy at that party but that doesn't mean any child can come to me any time they want and expect to get a gift from me. They can come to me and ask but a lot of them are going to be disappointed.

I'm not the one blaming people who aren't healed, I can freely accept that God chose not to heal them for some reason. I don't need to know the reason.

If you believe it's always God's will to heal it becomes more important to figure out why someone wasn't healed, because "it wasn't God's will ceases to be an option". And, if what passes for reasoning among some who push this teaching is anything to go by, about all that is left is to blame either the sick person or the person praying.

Hm yes, but I believe He always wants to heal and if someone died, there's more important things to do than blame people or yourself. I'm more like: the person is in heaven. They absolutely do not care, so why should I?