False Miracle Workers CRINGE

[tango]

As I said before, every Pentecostal seems to insist that such things have happened or that someone else has seen it happen, but of course they themselves have not witnessed it. Why is that, do you think?

Partly this kind of thing will come back to the immediacy of the situation. If you read the story of the lame man in Acts 3 on an internet forum would you believe it? I wouldn't necessarily believe it myself, I'd want more to go on. That's because we all know some stuff on the internet is fabricated. But if you were there and saw it for yourself, you wouldn't care if people on the internet believed it.

I've never seen limbs grow back. I have seen a man with advanced cancer and major bowel perforations in the ICU, so close to death that his family were called, make a recovery that could only be described as miraculous - not only did the perforations apparently close up but the cancer apparently disappeared. I saw it for myself - the man was a good friend of mine - so I believe what I saw. Anyone wanting proof is going to be out of luck because I don't have anything to show them.

Another kicker is that my faith in God, my faith in God's power to heal, is unaffected by whether or not I believe this or that account of Someone Else being healed. I believe God can heal, I believe God does heal (just not all the time, as some pentecostals would have us believe), and that doesn't change based on an account of a time God allegedly did or didn't heal someone I don't know in a way I didn't see.

 

[Andrew]

It's pretty much what it sounds like, healing by occult power rather than God's power.

Ok, yeah my friends were into witchcraft and I respected their "religion" as they call it but I always figured it was make believe, I really believed they just lied and conspired to get what they wanted. As for healing they were more into cursing people and it never worked lol these people believed they could order their future, God came and took them into the Lords house yay!
My ex went to indonesia and she started teaching others about how witch doctors scammed them and gave them a more holistic approach, she has claimed to heal the crippled by her school taught methods (she actually has testimony and documents) but she was a gypsy and not a Christian so I guess that would be considered "occult healing" but her class was on "Holistic healing"

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[tango]

Ok, yeah my friends were into witchcraft and I respected their "religion" as they call it but I always figured it was make believe, I really believed they just lied and conspired to get what they wanted. As for healing they were more into cursing people and it never worked lol these people believed they could order their future, God came and took them into the Lords house yay!
My ex went to indonesia and she started teaching others about how witch doctors scammed them and gave them a more holistic approach, she has claimed to heal the crippled by her school taught methods (she actually has testimony and documents) but she was a gypsy and not a Christian so I guess that would be considered "occult healing" but her class was on "Holistic healing"

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There's a lot of phony stuff there too but also a lot of real stuff. A couple of times I healed people when I was into that sort of thing. Nothing hugely significant but then when I was into that sort of thing I wasn't about healing much.

 

[Andrew]

There's a lot of phony stuff there too but also a lot of real stuff. A couple of times I healed people when I was into that sort of thing. Nothing hugely significant but then when I was into that sort of thing I wasn't about healing much.

When he converted he said that Satan was mad at him because he had won many souls over for him so Im sure he was deep into the real stuff im just glad I never witnessed any of it, he told me that he had conversations with spirits that were manifested in his room thats when it started to creep me out

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[tango]

When he converted he said that Satan was mad at him because he had won many souls over for him so Im sure he was deep into the real stuff im just glad I never witnessed any of it, he told me that he had conversations with spirits that were manifested in his room thats when it started to creep me out

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It can do that. I knew a couple of people who got freaked out early on and ran away. For some reason for me the creepy stuff became ever-more attractive. Now I'm glad I'm well out of it.