Does Government have the right to force someone to marry homosexuals?

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I have no concern about marriage outside of the Church. Any churches that do follow suit, bear their own condemnation.
 

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Unless some denomination chooses to celebrate same sex marriages then it is within their civil and religious freedoms to do so, right?

Yes it is and I know there are those who do s but I am not in agreement with it and I think they risk their souls in doing so

I have no concern about marriage outside of the Church. Any churches that do follow suit, bear their own condemnation.

I agree that no church ought to celebrate such marriages because to do so appears to be contrary to the teaching of Christ yet I hesitate to pronounce a condemnation upon those who do because condemnation really is in the power of God alone.
 

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I agree that no church ought to celebrate such marriages because to do so appears to be contrary to the teaching of Christ yet I hesitate to pronounce a condemnation upon those who do because condemnation really is in the power of God alone.

Has anyone claimed otherwise?
 

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I agree that no church ought to celebrate such marriages because to do so appears to be contrary to the teaching of Christ yet I hesitate to pronounce a condemnation upon those who do because condemnation really is in the power of God alone.
I disagree. If I perform a wedding ceremony over what is not a covenant marriage, then I defraud the participants by assuring them of God's blessing over what is a sinful relationship. If I stand silently, I give assent to that and participate in that deception.
 

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I agree that no church ought to celebrate such marriages because to do so appears to be contrary to the teaching of Christ yet I hesitate to pronounce a condemnation upon those who do because condemnation really is in the power of God alone.

I disagree. If I perform a wedding ceremony over what is not a covenant marriage, then I defraud the participants by assuring them of God's blessing over what is a sinful relationship. If I stand silently, I give assent to that and participate in that deception.

Exactly what are you disagreeing with?
 

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Exactly what are you disagreeing with?
I am disagreeing with you stance of not expressing our condemnation on those who call themselves shepherd, but who lead their charges into deception
 

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I agree that no church ought to celebrate such marriages because to do so appears to be contrary to the teaching of Christ yet I hesitate to pronounce a condemnation upon those who do because condemnation really is in the power of God alone.

I am disagreeing with you stance of not expressing our condemnation on those who call themselves shepherd, but who lead their charges into deception

I did not say anything about "our condemnation" of anybody.
 

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"Yet I hesitate to pronounce a condemnation upon those who do because condemnation really is in the power of God alone." Your words. so I disagree with that statement.
 

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I agree that no church ought to celebrate such marriages because to do so appears to be contrary to the teaching of Christ yet I hesitate to pronounce a condemnation upon those who do because condemnation really is in the power of God alone.

"Yet I hesitate to pronounce a condemnation upon those who do because condemnation really is in the power of God alone." Your words. so I disagree with that statement.

You disagree that I, personally, hesitate to pronounce a condemnation upon those who do because condemnation really is in the power of God alone?
 

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You disagree that I, personally, hesitate to pronounce a condemnation upon those who do because condemnation really is in the power of God alone?
Yes, I do. The "don't judge" point of view is not real. By silence you approve, you contribute to the possible ultimate condemnation of others. Just as you challenge others to walk in a manner worthy of their calling, you must also when you see a brother in sin, do something about it. In this case, a person who calls themselves a minister of the gospel, give a worldly blessing to a ceremony that is not blessed by god and lead others to believe it is, leading to their possible condemnation.
 

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I agree that no church ought to celebrate such marriages because to do so appears to be contrary to the teaching of Christ yet I hesitate to pronounce a condemnation upon those who do because condemnation really is in the power of God alone.

Yes, I do. The "don't judge" point of view is not real. By silence you approve, you contribute to the possible ultimate condemnation of others. Just as you challenge others to walk in a manner worthy of their calling, you must also when you see a brother in sin, do something about it. In this case, a person who calls themselves a minister of the gospel, give a worldly blessing to a ceremony that is not blessed by god and lead others to believe it is, leading to their possible condemnation.

I am persuaded that I am a far better judge of what I hesitate to do than you.
 

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I agree that no church ought to celebrate such marriages because to do so appears to be contrary to the teaching of Christ yet I hesitate to pronounce a condemnation upon those who do because condemnation really is in the power of God alone.

You are a rock, you are an island.

I am a person, made in God's image.
 

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