Do you agree with Cancel Culture?

[Lamb]

What do you think about Cancel Culture? Do you agree with the premise or are you rolling your eyes at the idea?

 

[Origen]

 

[tango]

I guess shutting someone down so they don't even get to speak is a whole lot easier than coming up with a coherent argument for why you think they are wrong.

 

[hedrick]

No. But it's really on both sides. All it takes is one ill-considered statement to bring someone down. If you want an example of it on the right, look at what happens to people who supported the fact that the recent election was accurate. Contradict the Leader once and you're dead.

 

[Stravinsk]

I don't like the idea of ruining someone's life over 1 or even a few statements, or bullying because they hold a minority view. This is a collectivist nightmare that makes automatons scared of social disapproval simply for exercising their freedom of expression. It also seems a harsh step that doesn't allow for forgiveness.

I do agree with it for consistently bad, unrepentant people who do a lot of harm to society. Examples would be George Soros, the decision makes at the WEF (world economic forum), Bill Gates, Rockefeller foundation people and others.

In general, I'm not a fan of Corporations or the Corporate Model in general, so I try to avoid where I can and opt for the small business owner. So in a sense I try to practice "counter culture" in this way.

 

[psalms 91]

No this is just totally wrong

 

[tango]

The worst part of it is the endless digging through history.

In the here and now we need to balance freedom of expression with consequences of expression. If I wanted to sign up as a member of the KKK I must be free to do so, but I wouldn't get to be surprised if my black friends decided they didn't want to be my friends any more.

The way someone gets canceled today because of something they said 10, 20, 30 years ago is increasingly terrifying although the good thing about it is that those pushing this kind of silliness are creating a monster that will hopefully devour them first. Perhaps in 10 years time anyone who thought it was a good idea to let a teenage boy say he was a girl in order to shower among naked teenage girls will get themselves canceled.

 

[mailmandan]

If banning people from social media for making political statements that liberals are offended by then I disagree with it.

 

[Pedrito]

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Some countries are considered to be undemocratic because political opponents are silenced, one way or another.

Some countries are considered to be undemocratic because fair and open recounts of contested seats are denied.

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Australia came close back in the seventies when the Prime Minister at the time refused to call the federal election that was due according to the constitution. Luckily, that attempt to retain power illegally, was thwarted. Interestingly, that Prime Minister is still considered to be a hero by the political party he belonged to.

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I have the impression that true democracy is indeed a truly fragile thing.

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[Member4592]

I guess shutting someone down so they don't even get to speak is a whole lot easier than coming up with a coherent argument for why you think they are wrong.

We can agree that it depends on what it is. For example; we previously had a member on here who thought rape and making women submissive was apparently okay and was pushing all of the other members on here to validate his opinions. We all shut him down real quick.

 

[Lucian Hodoboc]

What's "cancel culture"?

 

[psalms 91]

No and it is shameful

 

[Albion]

No. But it's really on both sides. All it takes is one ill-considered statement to bring someone down. If you want an example of it on the right, look at what happens to people who supported the fact that the recent election was accurate. Contradict the Leader once and you're dead.

That of course is not true. However, I have indeed noticed lately that the Left has begun to try to say that Trump supporters and Republicans, etc. engage in cancel culture, too. It appears to be an attempt to confuse the issue and minimize this terrible turn towards silencing and actually ruining people who dare to voice an opinion not in agreement with Left-wing politics.

"Cancel culture" neutralizes, through the use of threats and intimidation, the rights to free speech that all of us deserve and have basically enjoyed. We enjoyed it, that is, until we reached the most recent four years during which the people who lost the 2016 election vowed to destroy the new administration by any means possible. And then it was extended to anyone even suspected of having voted for Donald Trump.

Therefore, until the era of Maxine Waters, Antifa, BLM, and etc., we didn't experience such a concerted effort, with the support of elected officials and celebrities...and for certain we didn't experience it with the perpetrators knowing they can get away with it!

Urging supporters to get in the faces of ordinary people who dare to voice another opinion, "doxxing" (meaning to circulate the addresses of targeted people so that mobs can surround their houses and threaten their wives and children, contacting employers with lies in order to get the targeted people fired, or do something to damage or destroy whole businesses, websites, and etc.), accosting people in restaurants while they're having dinner with their families, and more such practices have become a feature of our times.

This is Cancel Culture. And it means what the term says--to CANCEL the person in every way possible short of murder.

The threat it poses to our society and also where it came from must not be misunderstood.

 

[Joshua1Eight]

I think some people ought to be cancelled. Trump was one of them. But I’m a bit partial to Biden, being an Irish Catholic myself .
I hope the country doesn’t get too carried away with cancel culture. But when a president incites violence on the nation’s capitol, then something has to be done.

 

[Albion]

What do you think about Cancel Culture? Do you agree with the premise or are you rolling your eyes at the idea?

I'm not sure that either of those choices words the respective positions correctly.

Of course no sensible person should agree with totalitarian government. Or, for that matter, with the techniques of totalitarians.

But as for the other choice, this matter is so threatening to any people who value human rights and representative government that to make "rolling your eyes" be the alternative is to settle for much too tepid a reaction to this kind of evil ("Cancel Culture").

 

[corman767]

What's "cancel culture"?

Cancel culture is the attempt by African Americans to destroy the culture and dominion of European Americans, and to replace it with THEIR culture and THEIR dominion. And they've already accomplished it to a great extent.

 

[Lamb]

Cancel culture is the attempt by African Americans to destroy the culture and dominion of European Americans, and to replace it with THEIR culture and THEIR dominion. And they've already accomplished it to a great extent.

That's not true since the ones canceling are predominately white liberals.

 

[corman767]

That's not true since the ones canceling are predominately white liberals.

The blacks would have NO power in America without the help of liberal whites. Liberals WORSHIP the black man!

 

[corman767]

AFRICAN AMERICANS are behind both the "Cancel Culture" movement, as well as the "Critical Race Theory" that's being taught in America's Schools and Universities today.
They won't be satisfied until they've completely destroyed ALL White Americans, be they liberal or conservative.
Their hatred for White Americans is just as great today, as was the Nazi's hatred for the Jews back in the 1940's.
Sadly, the White conservative are too cowardly to stand up to the blacks, while the liberal Whites have already sold their souls to them.

 

[tango]

The blacks would have NO power in America without the help of liberal whites. Liberals WORSHIP the black man!

I guess that's why people like Kevin Hart (a black comedian) said "shut the f--- up" on the topic of cancel culture. It seems whites aren't the only people getting cancelled.

From what I've seen (which is arguably limited, as a white man) an awful lot of black people have little time for the racial hand-wringing associated with white liberals.