Why not go back to what I had said earlier.
The bible is clear that Christ died for All 1Ti_2:6, The WHOLE WORLD 1Jn_2:2, SINNERS Rom_5:8, The UNGODLY Rom_5:6.
Christ died even those that are perishing because they have rejected the only means of their salvation.
Now you can try to dance around these truths but then you have to deny the clear word of God.
Brightframe52 had asked what makes the difference between those that are saved and those that perish.
The answer is obvious, FAITH in the risen Christ. While the death of Christ made salvation possible for all we are only saved through the risen Christ.
1Co 15:17 and
if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless;
you are still in your sins.
Rom 5:10 For
if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more,
having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
So that is what the discussion needs to revolve around.
Were the words of God not clear enough?
It seems that you think those words could have a different meaning.
As for Wittgenstein and the way he addressed the subject I really do not care and I have never even heard of him.
My focus is the word of God.