Did Christ die for them that are perishing ?

[MrE]

No. You understand the post ? You want to discuss it ?

Perhaps your original post should have stated what the thread would be about.

And considering that this seems to be the only thread that you contribute to or participate in-- it looks like a rather self-serving enterprise.

I'll take a pass. But you do you.

 

[brightfame52]

Perhaps your original post should have stated what the thread would be about.

And considering that this seems to be the only thread that you contribute to or participate in-- it looks like a rather self-serving enterprise.

I'll take a pass. But you do you.

Okay, and I can care less what you think, have a good day

 

[MrE]

Okay, and I can care less what you think, have a good day

You probably mean that you couldn't care less, but that's obvious.

You have a nice day too. Enjoy your SELF.

 

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Ensures Spiritual Blessing to Seed of Abraham !


Understand this, Christ's death on the Cross was to ensure the Spiritual Blessings Eph 1:3-4 upon Abraham's Seed amongst the Gentiles Gal 3:13-15

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

Now notice, the Gentiles were to partake of the Blessings of Abraham, receive of the Spirit, according to God's Covenant to Abraham Gal 3:14,16,17 !

His death therefore in fact ensures us that He redeemed from the curse of the Law Vs 13 [both jew and gentile] by the Body of Christ or His Death, ensures that all should be Married to Another Rom 7:4, even to Him that was raised from the dead. Now all for whom by His death have been redeemed from the curse of the Law, do receive the Promise of the Spirit, which makes manifest that they are of Abraham's Seed, and the Spirit communicates in them all needed Spiritual Blessings to do the Will of God as Per Heb 13:20-21

20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ[by His Spirit]; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.25

 

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Delivered first, then serve !


Lk 1:74

74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

This is yet an accomplishment of the death of Christ for all whom He died, jew and or Gentile, that by His death alone they are delivered from all their spiritual enemies, that they may serve God !

That word delivered in Vs 74 is the greek word rhyomai and means:

I.
to draw to one's self, to rescue, to deliver

II.
the deliverer

It also means to be saved "[that] without fear out of [the] hand of our enemies having been saved to serve him"



When Christ's says that He will draw all to Himself in Jn 12:32

32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

Then He is saying that because of His Death or being lifted up, He will rescue / deliver/ save all men to Himself. To serve Him !

So to be drawn by Christ is to be delivered , rescued, saved from all enemies, especially spiritual enemies, such as spiritual death and unbelief, and the devil, and the flesh, all the enemies of the soul that prevent one from serving God in Faith, in Holiness and Righteousness all the days of their lives !

Its the same word and the same thing Paul writes of here to the Colossian Church Col 1:13

Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

You see, that's an spiritual enemy, the power of darkness ! We must be rescued from that Power before we can serve. The word serve in Lk 1:74

is the greek word latreuō:

I.
to serve for hire

II.
to serve, minister to, either to the gods or men and used alike of slaves and freemen
A.
in the NT, to render religious service or homage, to worship

B.
to perform sacred services, to offer gifts, to worship God in the observance of the rites instituted for his worship
i.
of priests, to officiate, to discharge the sacred office

We are by Christ's delivering death, enabled to serve and worship God as described here Jn 4:23-24

23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

After being delivered, then we offer up spiritual sacrifices unto God through Jesus Christ 1 Pet 2:5

5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

By His death alone we are made Sovereignly Priests unto Our God, for that's how we offer spiritual sacrifices, again 1 Pet 2:5

5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

We became this not by our will, but by the Blood of Christ, which says so here Rev 1:5-6

5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

But before we can serve as such, we must first be delivered/rescued from our enemies Lk 1:74

74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

False religion says their freewill delivered them to first serve God, then God saves them, they put duty before deliverance, whereas deliverance is before duty ! We do duty not to get delivered, but because we are delivered we do duty, such as Faith and Repentance !


Gal 1:4-5

4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver/rescue us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Another spiritual enemies, the world ! Paul says by Christ giving His Life for Our sins, it was for the Purpose of effecting deliverance, according to the Will of God !

In fact, Paul here is saying the very same thing Zacharias stated here Lk 1:74

74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,

The world is our enemy James 4:4

4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

And guess what ? We are all by nature, in friendship with the world, we cannot help but be Eph 2:2-3

Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

Thank God that through Jesus Christ, all for whom He died have been delivered from the world, to serve God in Holiness and Righteousness all the days of their Life !

 

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Raised because of our Justification !


If Christ's death alone did not fully Justify from all sin and guilt and penalty, all for whom He died, all for whom sins that had been laid to His charge, had they not been really and truly vindicated, then He himself could not have been risen from the dead, and He and they He died for would be still in their sins, the point of 1 Cor 15:17

17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

Meaning their sins must still be charged against them against God's Law and Justice !

If Christ had not risen, not only us, but He also would have perished for our sins, again Paul's point of 1 Cor 15:12-18 !

But in that He was indeed raised, it means that that He and all those whose sins which had been charged to Him, have been Justified, Vindicated from all sin, and this fact is what is caused to be received from the Gospel revelation to them 1 Cor 15:3-4;Rom 1:16-17 !

Now if Christ Christ was freed from our sins imputed to Him, MUCH MORE, were all those freed from sin for whom He died Rom 6:7

7 For he that is dead[with Christ] is freed from sin.

The word freed here is the greek word dikaioō:

I.
to render righteous or such he ought to be

II.
to show, exhibit, evince, one to be righteous, such as he is and wishes himself to be considered

III.
to declare, pronounce, one to be just, righteous, or such as he ought to be

This is really saying, those who Christ died for, so they died in Him, when He died, consequently they are Justified from all sin, they are declared Righteous !

As Long as Christ raised from the dead, all for whom He died are declared Righteous before God, and freed from all sin believer or not, the condition is simply Christ having died for them ! 25

 

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As living stones !

1 Pet 2:5

5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

All for whom Christ died, He as a Living Stone Vs 4

4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

He makes all for whom He died, and whom He is the Head of, He makes them Living stones, for He gives them [His Body] Life 1 Cor 15:45

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam[The Living Stone of 1 Pet 2:4] was made a quickening spirit.

That word quickening means to give life, so He becomes a Life giving Spirit. Now by this they become experimentally meet for building material to build His Church Matt 16:18

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Zech 6:12-13

And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:

Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

Building a Spiritual House 1 Pet 2:5

5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

Christ building His Church/Temple also as seen fufills prophecy Zech 6:12-13, now to do this He must make them alive, make them Living stones, this He does by quickening them to Life 1 Cor 15:45.

Now notice, the Believer is coming to Christ 1 Pet 2:4 as in being drawn to Him the Living stone, so their coming to Him are as Living stones 1 Pet 2:4-5

4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

Their coming to Christ as Lively stones is to be built up into a Spiritual House ! The important point here is that they had to be first made Living stones to come to the Living Stone, for He does not use dead material !

The word for coming in Vs 4 is the greek word proserchomai and means:

I.
to come to, approach

II.
draw near to

III.
to assent to

It also means :

to attach oneself to Christ, to come to a participation in the benefits procured by him.

To assent means:

to agree or concur; subscribe to , acquiescence; compliance.

Thats actually what confessing is, to agree or to say the same thing ,I.to say the same thing as another, i.e. to agree with, assent

All this has been accomplished and effected by the Death of Christ !

 

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That we should live unto Christ that died for Us !


2 Cor 5:15

15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

One of the unfailing Purposes of God in the Death of Christ, it is that all for whom He died [The Elect] shall henceforth not live unto themselves, but to Live unto Him which died for them, and rose again ! So the result of Christ's Death in the Purpose of God is to reverse the plight of God's People of what happened in adam here Isa 53:6

6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

The Elect of God, His sheep went astray in adam and turned to living unto ourselves, are own way, but Christ's death puts an end to that by bringing us back to God 1 Pet 3:18

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

Or that He might return us back to the Bishop of our souls 1 Pet 2:24-25

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

25 For ye were as sheep going astray[went our own way, live unto ourselves]; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

The word returned is the greek word epestraphēte :

(a) trans: I turn (back) to (towards), (b) intrans: I turn (back) (to [towards]); I come to myself.

To cause to return, to bring back. Its actually what we saw in the prodigal son when we read Lk 15:17-18

17 And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!

18 I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,

he is being returned passive and he is now active in it, conversion. The word epestraphēte also is in the aorist indicative passive, which means he is being returned, which can also be the middle voice because he is being made to cooperate actively, for man is active in his repentance once it is given by God !

Christ's death effects a conversion, return back to God, even God in Christ ! 26

 

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That we should live unto Christ that died for Us ! 2


2 Cor 5:15

15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

Now exactly who are the "theywhich live " here ? Why its the all that He died for and rose again !

When Christ rose again from dying for those He died for, not only did He Live, but they Lived with Him, being in Union with Him as their Head !

Now this blessed Truth was indicated from the OT in this here word Isa 26:19

Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

Those Christ died for is His Body the Church, so when He Lived, His Dead Body Lived together with Him.

Paul says it here as well Eph 2:6

6 And hath raised us[His Dead Body] up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

Peter states the same purpose to live as a result of Christ's death for us here 1 Pet 2:24

Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Just as in 2 Cor 5:15

15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

Peter also uses the conjunction hina which means for this purpose, God's intended result, So God's Purpose for the Death of Christ and what the results will be are here revealed !

Understand this, if you and i Preach that anyone for whom Christ died, does not end up as a result of it, Living unto God and Christ that died for him, Living a Life of Faith in Christ, then we are basically saying that Christ's Death failed God's intended Purpose ! Is that how you think today ? If so, woe unto you, you are against Christ ! 26

 

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That we might be Married to Another !


As stated previously, the Death of Christ accomplished for all whom He died, no exceptions, that they are dead to the Law, but that for a purpose, that they should be Married to Another, That being the Lord Jesus Christ Rom 7:1-4

Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead[Jesus Christ], that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

In other words, if those Jesus Christ died for do not become Married experimentally to Christ, Him that was raised from the dead for their Justification [Rom 4:25] then the Purpose of God for His Death for them has badly misfired , failed to produce God's intended results !

But what is it that entails being Married to Christ ? It is to be betrothed to Him her Husband unto Faithfulness ! This is indicated here Hos 2:20

20 I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the Lord.

That word betroth means to espouse :

to marry. to give (a woman) in marriage !

But She is also caused to be Faithful in the Marriage, She is a Faithful Wife to Her Husband. The word faithfulness in Hos 2:20 'emuwnah means:

firmness, fidelity, steadfastness, steadiness

In fact the word is translated Faith here Hab 2:4

Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith

Yes, this means that Christ died for those , and severed their relationship to the Law [Rom 7:4], for the purpose of them living to Him by Faith or in Faithfulness !

The Just SHALL live by Faith or Faithfulness. That word Just as it is written in the NT as Per Rom 1:17

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

This which is restating Hab 2:4 the greek word for Just is dikaios which is translated righteous here Rom 5:19

For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous or Just.

The Obedience of Christ, meaning His death, made the many He died for Righteous or Just, same greek word, and the promise to the Just is that they shall live by Faith or Faithfulness and so fulfill the prophecy of Hos 2:20

I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the Lord.

That is, they shall know as Jesus says here Jn 17:3

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Folks, its impossible for one whom Christ died, its impossible for them not to come to Live by Faith, if that were so, the Purse of God in Christ's death for them has failed ! If you or i teach that one for whom Christ died dies in unbelief and their sins Jn 8:24, we teach that Christ's death was a failure and shall answer for that in the day of Judgment !