Could Someone Explain?

[Albion]

Black History Month. I understand.... it's a time to focus on their history. Okay. I'm good with that, I understand that. I wish there was an American History Month but I'm sure that will never happen.

But PRIDE month.... WHAT are we to be proud of? WHAT, specifically, are they PROUD for?

I recently read several articles that were supposed to answer that question. One of them never got around to doing so, even though it concluded by saying that it had indeed answered the question so the author would turn to another issue.

Another article actually did answer the question by saying that the month recognizes the "impact" that LGBT individuals "have had on society."

Whether or not that "impact" should engender pride is still unanswered, considering that Pride Parades, Drag shows, and the like never waste time or energy paying homage to any famous inventors, artists, military men and women, and etc, of the past who happened to be gay.

 

[Lees]

Black History Month. I understand.... it's a time to focus on their history. Okay. I'm good with that, I understand that. I wish there was an American History Month but I'm sure that will never happen.

But PRIDE month.... WHAT are we to be proud of? WHAT, specifically, are they PROUD for?



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They are proud of breaking free from the longstanding Christian tradition established in the U.S. They are proud to flaunt it in the face of believers and God.

(Ps. 2:1-3) "Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

This is why the U.S. is done for already. It doesn't matter if a liberal or conservative is in power, they must support the queer population. They must support the black and minority population in it's hate filled movements against whites.

Lees

 

[tango]

Correct. They don't care in that it will make no difference to them.

They do care in that they are against us and what we believe.

Lees

It's hardly surprising that the people who think we are wrong are against what we believe. A man who is attracted to other men is unlikely to see his attraction as being inherently sinful.

Honestly, there are times when much of the church seems to take a stance that's little more than wishing the nasty icky gay people would go away only to then act surprised when the nasty icky gay people decide they don't really want to go away and wish the church would go away.

 

[Albion]

Honestly, there are times when much of the church seems to take a stance that's little more than wishing the nasty icky gay people would go away only to then act surprised when the nasty icky gay people decide they don't really want to go away and wish the church would go away.

Them wishing the church would go away is understandable.

However, for them to demand that the church change its age-old beliefs in order to accommodate their views, as opposed to them deciding to go to a different church where their beliefs are already approved of, is a bit more difficult to appreciate.

 

[atpollard]

July is National Ice Cream Month

Now THAT is something to be PROUD of!

 

[tango]

Them wishing the church would go away is understandable.

However, for them to demand that the church change its age-old beliefs in order to accommodate their views, as opposed to them deciding to go to a different church where their beliefs are already approved of, is a bit more difficult to appreciate.

Very true. The concept of "live and let live" runs both ways.

 

[Stravinsk]

As far as I can tell, the only thing "to be proud of" is an over-reaction to a biased narrative. In popular media, non-straights are portrayed as funny, normal and not least - persecuted by bigots and religious far rights. I remember long ago when American media couldn't stop talking about some young man who apparently got beat up "because he was gay" - while it completely ignored the sexual torture and murder of a young boy by 2 gay men that happened around the same time. That kind of biased attention isn't an accident, imo. It's part of an agenda, just as teaching 3rd graders about all kinds of sex is part of an agenda.

The brainwashed are taught to put labels on people like "homophobic" or "bigot" if one disagrees, and get to feel all "accepting" and "enlightened" and "morally superior" for basically endorsing perversity.

 

[Lees]

It's hardly surprising that the people who think we are wrong are against what we believe. A man who is attracted to other men is unlikely to see his attraction as being inherently sinful.

Honestly, there are times when much of the church seems to take a stance that's little more than wishing the nasty icky gay people would go away only to then act surprised when the nasty icky gay people decide they don't really want to go away and wish the church would go away.

The root cause of 'wishing the church would go away' is that the country in it's origin was Christian. America was founded on the 'Christian Faith'. It's laws, culture, and tradition are based upon the Christian faith and Bible.

Therefore, because America has moved away from that faith, then it is in conflict with the laws, culture, and traditon that it was based on. And so it attacks and seeks to destroy or minimize those.

Someone made a remark to me on the 4th of July, that it was nothing but 'treason' what America did. And, they are 100% correct. It was treason. And had we lost, Washingtion, Jefferson, and all others would have been hung and quartered and disemboweled as traitors.

And, such an act of treason will be required again if America is ever to return to it's former state. Which I doubt it will. Notice the constant attention America focuses on the 'insurrection' protest by many of Trump supprters. Oh the horror. Someone defies the liberal, atheistic, all powerful American government.

Lees

 

[tango]

I think you're overcomplicating things there. If someone wishes I'd simply go away and stop existing they can hardly be surprised if I express hostility towards them and their viewpoints.

I have no doubt a lot of groups would be very happy if the church just went away but unless we look at people as individuals rather than putting them in a group with some number of others and assuming they are all alike we're kinda missing the point ourselves, no?

 

[Lees]

I think you're overcomplicating things there. If someone wishes I'd simply go away and stop existing they can hardly be surprised if I express hostility towards them and their viewpoints.

I have no doubt a lot of groups would be very happy if the church just went away but unless we look at people as individuals rather than putting them in a group with some number of others and assuming they are all alike we're kinda missing the point ourselves, no?

I don't think it's complicated at all.

All homosexuals are all alike. They are all homosexuals. Gee, that wasn't very hard.

Lees

 

[tango]

I don't think it's complicated at all.

All homosexuals are all alike. They are all homosexuals. Gee, that wasn't very hard.

Lees

Way to dodge the issue.

The funny thing is that beyond the one common element they all share they aren't all alike at all. They share one attribute. You might as well say that homosexuals and heterosexuals are all alike because they are all human. Gee, that wasn't very hard.

Acting as if "homosexuals" are some kind of amorphous group that all thinks the same is absurd and needless to say starting with an absurd assumption is unlikely to yield any useful conclusions.

 

[Lees]

Way to dodge the issue.

The funny thing is that beyond the one common element they all share they aren't all alike at all. They share one attribute. You might as well say that homosexuals and heterosexuals are all alike because they are all human. Gee, that wasn't very hard.

Acting as if "homosexuals" are some kind of amorphous group that all thinks the same is absurd and needless to say starting with an absurd assumption is unlikely to yield any useful conclusions.

It yields plenty of useful conclusions.

They are all homosexuals. Not difficult. Not complicated. Not hard.

Lees

 

[Albion]

It yields plenty of useful conclusions.

They are all homosexuals. Not difficult. Not complicated. Not hard.

Lees

If they had not been okay with complicating the matter themselves, they wouldn't insist that everybody else refer, in ordinary conversation, to their company as LGBTQAI2+ (or some other complicated variation of that list) every time a mention is made.

 

[Lees]

Way to dodge the issue.

The funny thing is that beyond the one common element they all share they aren't all alike at all. They share one attribute. You might as well say that homosexuals and heterosexuals are all alike because they are all human. Gee, that wasn't very hard.

Acting as if "homosexuals" are some kind of amorphous group that all thinks the same is absurd and needless to say starting with an absurd assumption is unlikely to yield any useful conclusions.

It yields plenty of useful conclusions.

They are all homosexuals. Not difficult. Not complicated. Not hard.

Lees

 

[Lees]

If they had not been okay with complicating the matter themselves, they wouldn't insist that everybody else refer, in ordinary conversation, to their company as LGBTQAI2+ (or some other complicated variation of that list) every time a mention is made.

Again. They are all homosexuals. Not difficult. No problem.

Lees

 

[Josiah]

Okay, so homosexuals are homosexual. I'm heterosexual and I'm heterosexual. Am I PROUD of that? Well, what would I be proud OF? Among the billions of us, there have been good ones (Jesus comes to mind) and bad ones (Hitler comes to mind) but what would I be so PROUD of?



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[Lees]

Okay, so homosexuals are homosexual. I'm heterosexual and I'm heterosexual. Am I PROUD of that? Well, what would I be proud OF? Among the billions of us, there have been good ones (Jesus comes to mind) and bad ones (Hitler comes to mind) but what would I be so PROUD of?



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Ridiculous comparison. There are no 'good homosexuals'.

If you are 'heterosexual', then you are at least in the normal, rightful group, of mankind. From there your presentation before others will be based upon other things in your life.

You don't have to be proud to be heterosexual. Your pride will be based upon other things you represent and act on in your life.

Lees