Confidentiality vs Secrets

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Do you think there is a difference? Do you think either is healthy physically and spiritually?
 

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Do you think there is a difference? Do you think either is healthy physically and spiritually?

I'm not sure? I have to think about this for a bit since offhand I don't that there is a difference.

I know when I worked I had to sign a confidentiality clause that applied even after I stopped working there. I can't divulge certain pieces of information about my projects. I think that's good business sense.

On another forum where I was staff we agreed to confidentiality but they took it too far. EVERYTHING got hidden which isn't always best since that's when gossip forms. I think that created an unhealthy environment.

Still thinking more on this...
 

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Do you think there is a difference? Do you think either is healthy physically and spiritually?

Many secrets are kept for good purposes.
 

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Do you think there is a difference? Do you think either is healthy physically and spiritually?

Yes that's healthy. I tend to throw my whole life out in the open, learned that in the mental institution, there it was great, people got open and even saved, but in general it's better to not tell everyone everything.
Lol my manager said: please dont tell the people who work here this. They get upset if someone has a cold. If it concerns someone else you should shut up anyway.
 

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Sure, I think there's a difference. It depends on if someone has a need or right to know something otherwise its up to the person if they want to share it. There are just some things that are private but that doesn't make it a secret.
 

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Do you think there is a difference? Do you think either is healthy physically and spiritually?
It's a fine line sometimes. Gossip is never right. Confidentiality is necessary, I'll be glad to elaborate if you want. PM me. ... Lol, just kidding, but there is alot to cover there. But we have biblical precedence, so obviously it's not wrong, like gossip is sin. Confidentiality is often called for. Secrets are a bit of a gray area, and each case is unique.
If you know a friend is cheating, with your friend, no less, and the one being cheated on doesnt know, but the two cheaters want you to keep secret, and you dont want to lose ANY of their friendships, and to make matters worse, you all worship together. Do you tell the pastor? Do you tell your friend? Do you keep a secret, but end the friendships? Ppl will wonder whats up. Each case has to be dealt with prayerfully, but bear in mind, there is nothing hidden that wont be exposed. The idea is to have as minimal damage as possible, and to find how best God can be glorified. Jesus said He IS the truth.
But many ppl take 'The truth will set you free' passage way out of context and abuse it, and rather than be freeing, it can really hurt.
But honesty should be up front, and secrets can cause alot of trouble, both telling and hearing them.
There used to be a saying, 'Ask me no secrets, I'll tell you no lies'. I usually dont want to know anyway. I have a hard enough time knowing the things Im actually supposed to know, like scripture, already. :=D:
 

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It must be difficult for pastors and priests who counsel. I think carrying other people's secrets is a daunting task. I can hardly carry my own. But as a nurse, I had to sign a confidentiality agreement.I don't like secrets so I don't like it when people tell me not to tell anyone. The nosy in me though want to know what the secret is. The gossip in me wants to spill the beans.But I don't gossip, I just want to.
 

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It must be difficult for pastors and priests who counsel. I think carrying other people's secrets is a daunting task. I can hardly carry my own. But as a nurse, I had to sign a confidentiality agreement.I don't like secrets so I don't like it when people tell me not to tell anyone. The nosy in me though want to know what the secret is. The gossip in me wants to spill the beans.But I don't gossip, I just want to.
Great honest post! I'm in the same position. Sometimes, if I'm thinking 'in the flesh' (theres another one of those 'christanese-ism things, lol) the temptation is there, like, I reeeaally gotta know, but then I remember how childish it is, ... Little peeps keeping secrets from me. Good gosh. Like they really matter, then, huh? I've got the greatest secret of all, straight from God, and that keeps it in perspective.
And it's funny, but ppl must think I'd gossip, bc they dont tell me much anyway, but I think Ive forgotten more stuff than Ive ever been asked to keep secret. I just have no desire to tell somebody your business.
I always find it odd when somebody says, 'Can I tell you this, just between me and you?'
Like, what do they think if they dont say that...I'm gonna go make phone calls? Hey everybody, gather round, Brightens gonna tell me a secret! Lol
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It must be difficult for pastors and priests who counsel. I think carrying other people's secrets is a daunting task. I can hardly carry my own. But as a nurse, I had to sign a confidentiality agreement.I don't like secrets so I don't like it when people tell me not to tell anyone. The nosy in me though want to know what the secret is. The gossip in me wants to spill the beans.But I don't gossip, I just want to.
 

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Go to YouTube and type in The big bang theory Sheldon's secret keeper.

Maybe the video is region aware and hides itself from some folk?
 

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:rofl3: See, that is just so wrong. LOL! :lol:

With mothers day when my son was 5:
Mom we made you a present at school, but it's secret!
Okay I'll keep it wrapped up and put it on the fridge.
The teacher said we should be quiet about it and not tell you it's a soap in a box.
Ah okay.
 

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With mothers day when my son was 5:
Mom we made you a present at school, but it's secret!
Okay I'll keep it wrapped up and put it on the fridge.
The teacher said we should be quiet about it and not tell you it's a soap in a box.
Ah okay.

AWW! How cute. But it is funny.:rotfl:
 

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Do you think there is a difference? Do you think either is healthy physically and spiritually?


Interesting.... never thought of it that way.... there probably is some difference (especially in terms of application and reason) but essentially, it seems the same.

In my work, I'm mandated to keep things confidential (the word used).... my wife knows WHERE I work and but not what I do (except in a very, very general sense of having something to do with my degree). It's a corporate requirement, done in part because the contracts it has attained require it. I see no moral conflict and it's never been an issue for me... if pressed, I just say "I could tell you but then I'd have to shoot you." Is that keeping things confidential or secret? I don't know...


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AWW! How cute. But it is funny.:rotfl:
I dont have kids of my own but I would probably need an extra house just for all the stuff, bc I dont know how you can throw any of those mementos away like the soap in a box, but I guess you have to and more memories are made. But I get sentimental and melancholy when I see old reminders, even pics of my cat get to me, lat alone pics of ppl and things that remind me of happier times. And there were secret things there, in keeping with the OP, but time has really blown by, hasnt it?
 

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Interesting.... never thought of it that way.... there probably is some difference (especially in terms of application and reason) but essentially, it seems the same.

In my work, I'm mandated to keep things confidential (the word used).... my wife knows WHERE I work and but not what I do (except in a very, very general sense of having something to do with my degree). It's a corporate requirement, done in part because the contracts it has attained require it. I see no moral conflict and it's never been an issue for me... if pressed, I just say "I could tell you but then I'd have to shoot you." Is that keeping things confidential or secret? I don't know...


- Josiah
Id say confidential WITH ...(Your employer) but secret FROM (other ppl), both of necessity.
But, we're all, pretty much, friends here, you can confide in us, we'll keep your secret confidential, so what exactly DO you do?
(Soorry, it's that 'We must know' thing Brighten mentioned before) :=D:
 

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My opinion, take it for what its' worth, is that keeping something confidential is often a requirement where as keeping somebody's secret is not and another thing about secrets is that the one who holds it is in a position of power. Holding something confidential due to requirement could be viewed as the one who required is the one who holds the power even though breaking both confidentiality and secrets might have dire consequences.
 
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