COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

[user1234]

Wow...first you accuse me in
public, then you tell me my reply should be in private, then you post this ↓ in public on the very next post?!

Yes, thank you for responding to him. Obviously he doesn't see that we believe God saves us 100%.

(And talking right past HIM as if HE doesnt exist? Nice.)
oke:
Allllrighty then...
HE shall bow properly and remain down here with the rest of us unwashed paeons whilst contemplating what the meaning of meaneth meaneth, shouldst anyone intendeth to summoneth him.

 

[Lamb]

Wow...first you accuse me in
public, then you tell me my reply should be in private, then you post this ↓ in public on the very next post?!
(And talking right past HIM as if HE doesnt exist? Nice.)
oke:
Allllrighty then...
HE shall bow properly and remain down here with the rest of us unwashed paeons whilst contemplating what the meaning of meaneth meaneth, shouldst anyone intendeth to summoneth him.

Take it to the Member Admin Center.

 

[user1234]

And now it's time to have a love meal together.

Tried that a bunch of times...got no takers.
Too bad, I'm a pretty decent cook, too...real meat and everything. :chef: :flowers1:

 

[Imalive]

Tried that a bunch of times...got no takers.
Too bad, I'm a pretty decent cook, too...real meat and everything. :chef: :flowers1:

It was first called a love meal, communion, before they turned it into a cracker piece and a sip of wine.

 

[user1234]

It was first called a love meal, communion, before they turned it into a cracker piece and a sip of wine.

Thats neat.

 

[user1234]

Thats neat.

Was that what they called the passover meal before then?
Or what they called the bread and wine ceremonies after the ascension?

 

[Albion]

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[Albion]

It was not the Agape or Love Feast if that is what you're wondering about. This meal occurred in addition to the sacred meal called by most of us these days "Holy Communion" or "Lord's Supper." An old term for the sacred meal to which only initiates were admitted was the Eucharist, which is a word still used in some churches. It means a thanksgiving. This term or Lord's Supper may have been the very first term used.

 

[Imalive]

It was not the Agape or Love Feast if that is what you're wondering about. This meal occurred in addition to the sacred meal called by most of us these days "Holy Communion" or "Lord's Supper." An old term for the sacred meal to which only initiates were admitted was the Eucharist, which is a word still used in some churches. It means a thanksgiving. This term or Lord's Supper may have been the very first term used.

I read somewhere that in 112 or so the love feasts had to stop and then there was only communion.

 

[Imalive]

http://earlychurch.com/LoveFeast.html

 

[Albion]

I read somewhere that in 112 or so the love feasts had to stop and then there was only communion.

I cannot vouch for that myself, but it sounds right. However, the bigger point is that the Agape meal never was the Lord's Supper. Both of them were celebrated or observed on the same day, it's true, but they were seen as having different purposes. I have read articles from people who tried to say that these were the same meal.

 

[Imalive]

I cannot vouch for that myself, but it sounds right. However, the bigger point is that the Agape meal never was the Lord's Supper. Both of them were celebrated or observed on the same day, it's true, but they were seen as having different purposes. I have read articles from people who tried to say that these were the same meal.

With Jesus and the disciples it was at the end of a meal and I don't think they just ate a tiny peace of matze and a tiny glass of wine. In the Middle East they're always eating. It's weird because we often have meals w church when someone cooks, because they're Indonesian or from Surinam, but noone even thinks of taking communion after that. And in white Dutch churches the love meal is one cookie w your coffee LOL.

 

[Albion]

With Jesus and the disciples it was at the end of a meal and I don't think they just ate a tiny peace of matze and a tiny glass of wine. In the Middle East they're always eating. It's weird because we often have meals w church when someone cooks, because they're Indonesian or from Surinam, but noone even thinks of taking communion after that. And in white Dutch churches the love meal is one cookie w your coffee LOL.

Yeh, the coffee hour is indispensable in most American churches. It comes after the service. However, there is a recent trend in some churches that cater to the younger crowd, and in mainly non-traditional churches, of having a coffee bar adjacent to the vestibule or entrance way where people are expected to lounge with a cup of coffee and conversation before the service begins. I would never get used to that, although I did attend such a church once and this didn't seem to detract from the reverence shown by the people once they moved into the sanctuary/nave for the worship service.

 

[Imalive]

Yeh, the coffee hour is indispensable in most American churches. It comes after the service. However, there is a recent trend in some churches that cater to the younger crowd, and in mainly non-traditional churches, of having a coffee bar adjacent to the vestibule or entrance way where people are expected to lounge with a cup of coffee and conversation before the service begins. I would never get used to that, although I did attend such a church once and this didn't seem to detract from the reverence shown by the people once they moved into the sanctuary/nave for the worship service.

I was once in a church. In the middle of the worship someone yelled: cake break!!! and they all started to eat cake and drink stuff and then later continued. Weirdest thing I've ever seen.

 

[MennoSota]

So let's break this down:
Romans: The is really is. Let's eat some Jesus meat and drink his blood.
Lutherans: The is really is, but the is isn't really meat or blood. The is is, but it's not really the is and even though we define it as real it's not really real, but don't question the logic...it just is.
Evangelicals: The is is symbolic and points to Jesus really dying and atoning for sin, but the bread remains bread and the (God forbids wine ) grape juice (no other juice is acceptable and truth be told, only Welch's is real grape juice) remains grape juice. The purpose of communion is to solemnly remember.
Orthodox: ? Only Nostradamus knows...

 

[user1234]

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Exactly!!!

EXCELLENT POINT!!!

Wish I'd thought of it myself!

(And just in time, too ... I was starting to think this thread didnt have one!)

:spinningsmilie:

 

[ImaginaryDay2]

And now it's time to have a love meal together.

Not until you change your avatar

 

[ImaginaryDay2]

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[MennoSota]

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[MennoSota]

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