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During my 66 years of reading and studying God's Word, @SetFree, out of my 82 years, I have learned to interpret the Bible according to its own assumptions and meanings, not by someone else's ideas that he imposes on Scripture. For example, I heard that the idea of the rapture up to heaven was seen in some woman's vision a long time ago, not in the Bible. Is that true?

So you do... believe in a false Pre-trib Rapture theory?
 

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Your statements supporting men's false Amill doctrine is... fictional. But what I showed from the 'actual' Bible Scripture of Rev.20, as written, is simply what God's Word declares. So it is definitely not MY interpretation, it is CHRIST'S Interpretation AS WRITTEN. What your silly assumption about my interpretation is just a statement of bad excuse to NOT heed the Rev.20 Scripture as written. It also falsely accuses me and anyone who can READ the ENGLISH of Rev.20 as not understanding simple English. Not only this, but what you said shows you... cannot even count properly, since the "thousand years" of Rev.20 means 1,000, and not 2,000 + as it has been since Jesus died on the cross.

Therefore, it isn't wise for me to continue conversation with you, because you show you have NO intention of keeping to Bible Scripture as written.
Rev. 20 does have a context, Rev. 19, at the end of which Jesus comes again on a white horse in judgment and victory. Then, a new vision starts over with the symbolically-complete, not literal, "1,000 years." That's the amillennial interpretation. Your interpretation ignores that previous context about Jesus' second coming and says that that period is a literal number. You might be right, except that Revelation's numbers are all figurative (again, context). Again, it might happen according to your interpretation, but it is an interpretation to call it all literal.
 

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So you do... believe in a false Pre-trib Rapture theory?
The only "Rapture" I see in Scripture is the one in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, where believers who are alive when Jesus returns are caught up to meet him in the air (verse 17). The passage doesn't say where we go after that amazing experience, but the word translated "meet" has a very specific meaning in the Bible. It is used for city leaders who go out from their town to "meet" a king or higher official and welcome him back to their city. In Revelation 21, we see the new Jerusalem coming down toward the new earth, and I think that we will be part of that descent.

1Th 4:13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope.
1Th 4:14 For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep.
1Th 4:15 For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
1Th 4:17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.
1Th 4:18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.
Rev 21:2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
 
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