Celibacy

[MoreCoffee]

What do you think of voluntary celibacy? Would you ask it of a same sex attracted individual? Would you disapprove of a pastor being celibate? What of yourself, would you consider celibacy as an option?

 

[psalms 91]

Celebacy as a choice is fine and no I would not consider it unless it became something I had to do.

 

[Full O Beans]

A life of celibacy in the Christian is the result of God calling one to it. Other than that, we are created to live lives of fruitfulness, providing families for God.

 

[Stravinsk]

What do you think of voluntary celibacy?

If an individual chooses to be celibate for whatever reason, I see that as fine. I do not, however, think it is a "more moral" option than getting married. It is just a different option.

This position has a condition though - it must be truly voluntary and not a dictate of some church doctrine. Too many priests take vows they cannot seem to live by, and would be better off if they married, and the children they molest would be MUCH better off.

Would you ask it of a same sex attracted individual?

It's not my business to ask this of anyone.

Would you disapprove of a pastor being celibate?

Not at all, but only if he/she was truly celibate.

What of yourself, would you consider celibacy as an option?

Is that even an option to a widower who has already had sex?

If so, no. I wouldn't consider it. I'm not sexuality active with anyone, but that doesn't mean I don't want to enjoy that again with the right person.

 

[Lamb]

What do you think of voluntary celibacy? Would you ask it of a same sex attracted individual? Would you disapprove of a pastor being celibate? What of yourself, would you consider celibacy as an option?

Voluntary celibacy? That's someone's private choice.

Would I ask of it of someone? Not sure I would ask, but I would share what I know from scripture.

I would not disapprove of a pastor who wanted to remain celibate...unless his wife disagreed

Celibacy would never be a choice I would make for myself.

 

[Josiah]

What do you think of voluntary celibacy? Would you ask it of a same sex attracted individual? Would you disapprove of a pastor being celibate?

One who has not found his beloved shouldn't marry one whom he doesn't truly love.

But telling one that he/she MUST not marry..... perhaps in order to get or keep a job.... is something I don't support.

What of yourself, would you consider celibacy as an option?

Sure - as long as I didn't met my beloved. I'd rather be single than marry one whom I did not love and could not dedicate my life to. But of course, when God places that special one into one's life.....




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[tango]

What do you think of voluntary celibacy? Would you ask it of a same sex attracted individual? Would you disapprove of a pastor being celibate? What of yourself, would you consider celibacy as an option?

If people choose celibacy for whatever reason I'd say that's between them and God.

I personally know a gay Christian man who believes a physical homosexual relationship would be sinful and so remains celibate through choice. It's hard not to respect his stance.

I think it would be better to remain celibate than to marry someone just for the sake of having someone. I wouldn't disapprove of a pastor being celibate if he had made that choice. I don't recall ever having a celibate pastor but I don't see why it should be an issue.

Celibacy isn't really an option for me any more, being married

 

[visionary]

What do you think of voluntary celibacy? Would you ask it of a same sex attracted individual? Would you disapprove of a pastor being celibate? What of yourself, would you consider celibacy as an option?

If he chooses it for spiritual gain. .. If it is decided for him and he wants a way of having the cake and eating it too, .. then you have what the Catholic church has suffered in pediphile abuse...

 

[MoreCoffee]

If he chooses it for spiritual gain. .. If it is decided for him and he wants a way of having the cake and eating it too, .. then you have what the Catholic church has suffered in pediphile abuse...

And the Salvation Army, the Anglican Church, Baptists, Jehovah's witnesses, Mormons, Pentecostals, Church of Christ, and many secular schools, orphanages, sporting clubs and associations and so forth. But it is not celibacy that leads to paedophilia nor is it marriage nor pornography nor over indulgence in religion or politics or any other thing. Seems that there are paedophiles in many places from many background and in every marital state that the law provides.

Why does your mind turn to sexual abuses when the topic is abstinence from sex? Do you really believe that abstinence is impossible without leading to sexual perversions?

 

[visionary]

And the Salvation Army, the Anglican Church, Baptists, Jehovah's witnesses, Mormons, Pentecostals, Church of Christ, and many secular schools, orphanages, sporting clubs and associations and so forth. But it is not celibacy that leads to paedophilia nor is it marriage nor pornography nor over indulgence in religion or politics or any other thing. Seems that there are paedophiles in many places from many background and in every marital state that the law provides.

Why does your mind turn to sexual abuses when the topic is abstinence from sex? Do you really believe that abstinence is impossible without leading to sexual perversions?

IT is one of the signs that celibacy didn't go well for those who took it to have a religious position.

 

[MoreCoffee]

IT is one of the signs that celibacy didn't go well for those who took it to have a religious position.

I don't think it is a sign about celibacy since exactly the same wickedness is present in people who are married and people who are divorced and people who are old and young and all sorts of things. Popular as it is from some to suggest that celibacy is the cause or a trigger for such wickedness it is shown by the facts to be an irrelevance. But why does your mind turn to sexual perversions when the thread is about celibacy? Do you think that abstaining from sex makes a person become wicked?

 

[visionary]

I don't think it is a sign about celibacy since exactly the same wickedness is present in people who are married and people who are divorced and people who are old and young and all sorts of things. Popular as it is from some to suggest that celibacy is the cause or a trigger for such wickedness it is shown by the facts to be an irrelevance. But why does your mind turn to sexual perversions when the thread is about celibacy? Do you think that abstaining from sex makes a person become wicked?

Never said that it was the trigger, but rather the incubator for certain clergy... general populates have all the rest of the excuses.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Never said that it was the trigger, but rather the incubator for certain clergy... general populates have all the rest of the excuses.

Does your theses mean that everybody who is celibate is incubating sexual perversions? I do not believe that is true.

 

[visionary]

Does your theses mean that everybody who is celibate is incubating sexual perversions? I do not believe that is true.

Probably not... nothing is absolute... but celibracy was incubating sexual perversions through the religious reassignments, cloak of supposed "holiness", and "above the law" attitude, with a touch of hierarchy protection.

 

[MoreCoffee]

What do you think of voluntary celibacy? Would you ask it of a same sex attracted individual? Would you disapprove of a pastor being celibate? What of yourself, would you consider celibacy as an option?

Probably not... nothing is absolute... but celibracy was incubating sexual perversions through the religious reassignments, cloak of supposed "holiness", and "above the law" attitude, with a touch of hierarchy protection.

I can't take your stated claims at face value. The facts do not support them. I wonder why you say those thing? And once again, this thread is about celibacy not about sexual perversions. Can't you keep to the topic?

 

[visionary]

I can't take your stated claims at face value. The facts do not support them. I wonder why you say those thing? And once again, this thread is about celibacy not about sexual perversions. Can't you keep to the topic?

Spotlight is a great movie.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Spotlight is a great movie.

I suspect the film is irrelevant to this thread's topic. Did you form your views from the ideas present in the film?

 

[Stravinsk]

Spotlight is a great movie.

Indeed, it is, I just watched that this week.

It's even recent news (again) here in Australia.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/02/29/pell-security-guards-punched_n_9343090.html

 

[visionary]

Countries are questioning the protective system in place... http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwo...ncis-protecting-high-ranking-pedophile-156630

 

[visionary]

Indeed, it is, I just watched that this week.

It's even recent news (again) here in Australia.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/02/29/pell-security-guards-punched_n_9343090.html

This reflects what the movie revealed. http://america.aljazeera.com/articl...ncis-says2ofcatholicclergyarepaedophiles.html