Can the devil harm you as you sin?

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Isn't it when we are sinning that we are turned from God so I was wondering if we're turning to the devil when we do sin not that we want to turn to him on purpose and if so can he harm us when we're sinning?
 
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The harm comes from us and our responsibility toward our own sin. So many people blame the devil for things but we're the ones doing the action. Think of how in Genesis and Adam and Eve disobeyed. Yet, even though God told Satan what would happen to him, ultimately the blame went to Adam and Eve for their action.

Satan wants us to sin and believe it's okay. That is harmful.
 
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Very informative posts everyone lol.

I've never actually thought about this before, and it's quite an interesting thought. Harm us how though, even when you sin, you are still a Christian and wouldn't it be the same case with the story of Job?
 
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George said:
Very informative posts everyone lol.

I've never actually thought about this before, and it's quite an interesting thought. Harm us how though, even when you sin, you are still a Christian and wouldn't it be the same case with the story of Job?
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Didn't think my 'thumbs up' was informative enough, eh? Lol . Harm is kind of broad-based here, you're right. What harm in an ultimate sense can that defeated foe do to those who are saved?
But in a practical sense it can wreak havoc in our lives if we compromise with sin, (believe me, I know). Sow to the wind, reap the whirlwind, so to speak.
But why entertain the idea? We should know what sin cost before we got saved, so we have no need to go back into the vipers den to see if we'll get bit again since.
 
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TurtleHare said:
Isn't it when we are sinning that we are turned from God so I was wondering if we're turning to the devil when we do sin not that we want to turn to him on purpose and if so can he harm us when we're sinning?
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I am afraid of this and don't know how bad the devil will hurt me.
 
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AngelHost said:
I am afraid of this and don't know how bad the devil will hurt me.
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Hi, welcome. As Rens said, the best revenge you can give to the devil that has caused all that destruction in life, is to give your life to the Lord Jesus Christ, who already won the victory on the cross, rose from the grave, and now gives the victory to you. :) By His love and grace.
Jesus is perfect love so there's no need to fear because His perfect love casts out fear. God bless you. :)
 
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Try this way to see it. The devil was like one of those nasty big black bees with the nasty stinger , and the stinger was poisonous. And our sin separated us from God, and the 'sting' of sin is death, permanent separation. Hell.

Let's say the bee flew in the car and was flying all around, us little kids are in the back scared and crying, afraid of the bee, but then Dad reaches out from the drivers seat and grabs the bee.

But then ouch, the bee gets out and starts buzzing around, and we're crying get him, Daddy, the big bee is buzzing loud and he's gonna sting us!!!
But Dad says, 'No he wont, kids,
dont be afraid,
look what Daddys got in his hand...'
And he opens his hand, and in it is the stinger.
Now, even though the bee can make a lot of noise,
he can't sting us anymore.

Take a look at Jesus' nail pierced hand!
Our Lord and Saviour Jesus took the stinger for us.
Don't be afraid.
Jesus reduced the devil to a big black bee without a stinger, and all he can do is buzz!

Thank you heavenly Father!
Thank you, Jesus!
Thank you for saving us.
Thank you for your love. Amen. :)
 
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I tried giving to God but the devil still gets his way.
 
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Maybe you need help and prayer. I got a lot of help and prayer in church when he kicked me all over the place. You need to learn who you are in Christ and that you have authority over him.
 
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AngelHost said:
I tried giving to God but the devil still gets his way.
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Rens said:
Maybe you need help and prayer. I got a lot of help and prayer in church when he kicked me all over the place. You need to learn who you are in Christ and that you have authority over him.
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Rens is right. Please read post #15 again. You cant get stung by a bee that has no stinger. If you're saved, you're name is written in the Lamb's book of life. We have our authority in Jesus. :)

In Luke chapter ten, disciples were rejoicing because they had power over the enemy, but Jesus informed them not to rejoice over that, (even though it was true).
He reminded them that HE was the one with the power, and He gave it to them, His own, for them to be humble about that, because He wanted them rather to rejoice because their names are written in heaven! \:)/

Oh, if we could all see the victory and the gift that Jesus won and gave to us!
He WANTS us to rejoice, and as we do, the enemy has to flee! GBU
 
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TurtleHare said:
Isn't it when we are sinning that we are turned from God so I was wondering if we're turning to the devil when we do sin not that we want to turn to him on purpose and if so can he harm us when we're sinning?
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God is protecting you since you believe in him even when you are off being naughty, for he is the father who holds you and will not allow satan to physically harm you even though that devil will do all kinds of things to try to keep you in sin. Isn't that the worse of the harm then?
 
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"The devil could take a two week vacation and no one would notice"

I believe that sin ALWAYS hurts us, but I'm not sure I'd directly blame the devil for this - I think often it's just the consequence, the "fall out" of stupid and bad stuff in us. And curious how we'll hurt ourselves (and others) by our sinfulness - and then do it again.... and again.... and again.... isn't that the definition of stupidity? Ah, but we are by nature sinful and unclean; sin is a disease we have (well, I do).

Thanks be to God for His MERCY in Christ, our Savior....


- Josiah
 
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