Blessed

[George]

Before this thread starts and people post, we're all smart enough to remain respectful. Some might not be so keen on this thread, but I mean no harm with it.

This is to define the meaning of being Blessed in accordance with Gabriel approaching Mary at the Annunciation.

Keep it respectful or no need to post.

 

[Lamb]

What do the Beatitudes say about being Blessed? Good point to start!

 

[Alithis]

Before this thread starts and people post, we're all smart enough to remain respectful. Some might not be so keen on this thread, but I mean no harm with it.

This is to define the meaning of being Blessed in accordance with Gabriel approaching Mary at the Annunciation.

Keep it respectful or no need to post.

i feel you have a point to state ?

 

[Josiah]

A resource.... http://www.christianitytoday.com/bi...theology/what-does-it-mean-to-be-blessed.html



1. GABRIEL never said "blessed" to Mary. Luke 1:28 is "graced" not "blessed." To be graced is to be given favor. "God graced me with life." "God graced me with His gift of faith."

2. It's ELIZABETH who called Mary "blessed." Luke 1:42. Note that of the two words in Greek usually translated to "blessed" the one here is eulogetos (from which we get the word "eulogy"). It means praiseworthy, spoken well of, honorable. A very common Greek word.


I hope that contributes....



A blessed Lenten season to all....


- Josiah




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[psalms 91]

A resource.... http://www.christianitytoday.com/bi...theology/what-does-it-mean-to-be-blessed.html



1. GABRIEL never said "blessed" to Mary. Luke 1:28 is "graced" not "blessed." To be graced is to be given favor. "God graced me with life." "God graced me with His gift of faith."

2. It's ELIZABETH who called Mary "blessed." Luke 1:42. Note that of the two words in Greek usually translated to "blessed" the one here is eulogetos (from which we get the word "eulogy"). It means praiseworthy, spoken well of, honorable. A very common Greek word.


I hope that contributes....



A blessed Lenten season to all....


- Josiah




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This makes sense and is a lot clearer than the 60 some pages of the other thread. Thank you

 

[Josiah]

This makes sense and is a lot clearer than the 60 some pages of the other thread. Thank you

The other thread is uber-clear, lol.



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[Alithis]

A resource.... http://www.christianitytoday.com/bi...theology/what-does-it-mean-to-be-blessed.html



1. GABRIEL never said "blessed" to Mary. Luke 1:28 is "graced" not "blessed." To be graced is to be given favor. "God graced me with life." "God graced me with His gift of faith."

2. It's ELIZABETH who called Mary "blessed." Luke 1:42. Note that of the two words in Greek usually translated to "blessed" the one here is eulogetos (from which we get the word "eulogy"). It means praiseworthy, spoken well of, honorable. A very common Greek word.


I hope that contributes....



A blessed Lenten season to all....


- Josiah




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it does contribute well

 

[Josiah]

Well, George......

 

[visionary]

Any time you are in the presence of the Lord, you are blessed beyond measure. His world opens up to you, His righteousness covers you, His Presence blesses you, His words comfort you, heal you, amaze you, and encourage you.

 

[Alithis]

Before this thread starts and people post, we're all smart enough to remain respectful. Some might not be so keen on this thread, but I mean no harm with it.

This is to define the meaning of being Blessed in accordance with Gabriel approaching Mary at the Annunciation.

Keep it respectful or no need to post.

im just wondering ...
the lord jesus and the disciples were jews ... i think we all agree on that .

i'm no expert on the topic ,but i would assume that, primarily, they spoke HEbrew ... while i also assume they may have had differing levels of grip on aramaic,roman and greek being the political nature of the time in which they lived . but primarily , being jews ,i would assume they spoke hebrew as the lord Jesus was sent first to the house of israel ad focussed his message at that time on israel .

why i make that personal supposition, in regard to thier spoken language .is because later the testimonies were recorded in GReek and it is from the greek world people define the meaning of the word "blessed" .

however when the angel spoke to a very young mary (calculated by some to be as young as 14 yrs (?) * ) she was a jewish girl who would have spoken hebrew as her home language (again i assume ) so when Elizabeth said blessed are you (and she was certainly speaking hebrew as her husband was a priest in the temple of the lord ) she would be using the hebrew word .. which quite simply means " HAPPY" !

so it certainly does not denote , suggest or even remotely imply any "other "position or designation of office or authority what so ever .



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* this --> (?) means i have no idea ,i heard it somewhere and am open to input on it .


ps- i think i just did that thing where you use to many ways(words) to say the same thing in a sentance -forgot what it's called haha

 

[Josiah]

im just wondering ...
the lord jesus and the disciples were jews ... i think we all agree on that .

i'm no expert on the topic ,but i would assume that, primarily, they spoke HEbrew ... while i also assume they may have had differing levels of grip on aramaic,roman and greek being the political nature of the time in which they lived . but primarily , being jews ,i would assume they spoke hebrew as the lord Jesus was sent first to the house of israel ad focussed his message at that time on israel .

Nope. Hebrew had ceased to be a spoken language nearly 500 years before Jesus was born.

however when the angel spoke to a very young mary (calculated by some to be as young as 14 yrs (?) * ) she was a jewish girl who would have spoken hebrew as her home language (again i assume ) so when Elizabeth said blessed are you (and she was certainly speaking hebrew as her husband was a priest in the temple of the lord ) she would be using the hebrew word .. which quite simply means " HAPPY" !

There is no way to know if the angel spoke some other language to Mary (yes, it could have been Aramaic) for one very simple reason: that's not recorded. What God has given to us is in GREEK. And while there are two koine Greek words that often are translated into English as "blessed," the angel said neither. And the one Elizabeth said is not the one often translated as "happy."



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[Josiah]

George, what's your point?

 

[Alithis]

Nope. Hebrew had ceased to be a spoken language nearly 500 years before Jesus was born.

here is no way to know if the angel spoke some other language to Mary (yes, it could have been Aramaic) for one very simple reason: that's not recorded. What God has given to us is in GREEK. And while there are two koine Greek words that often are translated into English as "blessed," the angel said neither. And the one Elizabeth said is not the one often translated as "happy."
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correct ..it appears historically that "aramaic" is the most likely language she spoke at the time

though elizabeth would have spoken hebrew as it was preserved mount the priesthood
in the instance of elisabeth she used the aramaic word which happens to be close to identical to the hebrew word for blessed .. basically meaning "happy "

in the greek it is a word which is simply a more extreme version .. but basically carried the same meaning ..happy it is also caries a sense of a verb .. like you are being joyously happy with celebration ....
its the same meaning but with strong emphasis .

but again . it certainly does not denote , suggest or even remotely imply any "other "position or designation of office or authority what so ever .