Acceptance of the Trinity & Nicene Creed

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That is like someone asking me if I believe the bible but yet
I know that them and I do not have the same understanding of it.
 

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Are you here to argue about the Trinity and the Creed? It sounds as if you are not mainstream in your beliefs.
What difference does it make why I am here I am not breaking any of your rules.
And I have not argued with anyone...just asked questions concerning what they have stated to me.
 

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What difference does it make why I am here I am not breaking any of your rules.
And I have not argued with anyone...just asked questions concerning what they have stated to me.
Well, you're bypassing a ban....so you are breaking the rules.
 

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Jesus believed the Torah and the pharisees believed the Torah,
yet they did not have the same understanding of it.
 

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Jesus believ ed the Torah and the pharisses believed the Torah, yet they did not argue upon it.

Prove it.
Why did you return?
 

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Are you calling me a liar?
Does it even matter to you? Aren't you here to try to inform us of your truth and how wrong we are?
 

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Does it even matter to you? Aren't you here to try to inform us of your truth and how wrong we are?
No, I am not here to inform you of the truth or point out the errors in your doctrine.
 

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No, I am not here to inform you of the truth or point out the errors in your doctrine.
Well, you asked questions and we answered them and you didn't like our answers and then tell me that you don't believe in the Trinity or the Nicene Creed in the same manner that I do. This thread alone is proof that you are here to try to teach us YOUR truth, not try to understand ours.
 

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Well, you asked questions and we answered them and you didn't like our answers and then tell me that you don't believe in the Trinity or the Nicene Creed in the same manner that I do. This thread alone is proof that you are here to try to teach us YOUR truth, not try to understand ours.
I understand everything you believe and why you believe it. I do not need you to teach me it.
And I would not waste any time trying to teach that to which cannot be learned. So I would not teach you.
But you are wrong again, I love your answers to my questions.

I find them to be wonderful.
 

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I understand everything you believe and why you believe it. I do not need you to teach me it.
And I would not waste any time trying to teach that to which cannot be learned. So I would not teach you.
But you are wrong again, I love your answers to my questions.

I find them to be wonderful.
Then the point of this conversation is what?
 

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To fulfill the will of the living God.
The will of God is for man to go and preach the Good News and baptize so that we can have eternal life by grace through faith in Jesus the Christ who died on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins.
 

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The will of God is for man to go and preach the Good News and baptize so that we can have eternal life by grace through faith in Jesus the Christ who died on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins.
The will of God for me
is to love Him with all my heart,
with all my mind, and with all my soul
and with all my strength in Spirit and truth.
 

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Is the man Jesus your God?
God incarnate yes sure however He ascends and transcends beyond human understanding and logic (hence logos), isn't God both Lord and God? Both are titles by the way.. "Let us make man in our image"
God is invisible and is a Spirit and Jesus is that very Logos/Logic/Wisdom/Word of God made flesh and also the Spirit of Prophesy, both Son of Man and Son of God born of the Holy Spirit

Short version, the name Jesus means Savior so yes
 

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God incarnate yes sure however He ascends and transcends beyond human understanding and logic (hence logos), isn't God both Lord and God? Both are titles by the way.. "Let us make man in our image"
God is invisible and is a Spirit and Jesus is that very Logos/Logic/Wisdom/Word of God made flesh and also the Spirit of Prophesy, both Son of Man and Son of God born of the Holy Spirit

Short version, the name Jesus means Savior so yes
I have read all these words you have stated to me, but clarify it for me
so as you are direct to the point:

The man Jesus is BOTH your Savior and God.

True or false as it is stated to you?
 

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Which part of Jesus died on the cross?

A. The fully God part
B. The fully man part
C. Both

His human nature died. Briefly.



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His human nature died. Briefly.
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huh? most traditional Christisns say that because of the personal union, the statement you just made isn’t meaningful. Natures don’t die. People do.
 
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