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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    dave Depends on what you mean. Paul isnt the only one God gave suffering to. And what do you mean avail ? After your response, I will be moving away from discussing rewards, would prefer to stay tuned in on Justification of the ungodly.
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    All who have been given to believe on Christ, have also been given to suffer on His behalf to some degree or other Phil 1:29 29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    dave Im sure His reward is wth Him since He is our reward. All the righeous shall shine in the Kingdom friend: Matt 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. Not sure I am in agreement with this. I see rewards...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    dave I prefer the kjv which reads: After these things the word of the Lord came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward. I believe God is saying He Himself is Abrahams Shield and Great reward, and I believe this applies to all...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Hi Dave, I appreciate your posts as well. I see the Heb 11:35 verse referring to the resurrection of the Just in that last say which of course is a much better resurrection than that of the unjust. Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Hi Dave, I agree with the majority of what you saying here. Yet I pause whenever I see that something of eternal value, like reward can be said to be merited by the saved. What about the saved incestous brother in 1 Cor 5, will he not receive the crown of life James 1:12 or the crown of...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Christ Resurrection and Justification ! Rom 4:25 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. Justification by or at the resurrection of Jesus Christ, those who are most unlearned of the accomplishment of Christ's Death, that it did in fact Justify those...
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    What or Who is the Church?

    The True Israel, the Church are those people who have Abraham’s spiritual faith regardless of their ethnicity Gal 3:7,26-29 7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of...
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    What or Who is the Church?

    The Church, the Body of Christ is the Seed of Abraham, for its seen when we consider a couple of verses in Hebrews to start. Heb 2:11 11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, This no doubt refers to...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    When one is Justified by Faith in time, it is when God has made known to them the Mystery of His Will or Decree of their Eternal Justification, it is then they are being made consciously aware of God's Justifying sentence, that was from Eternity due to His Eternal Purpose in Christ Eph 3:11 and...
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    Happy Birthday brightfame52

    Thank You very much !
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    What or Who is the Church?

    1689 dave Also Jesus Christ was head of His Body the Church from the beginning at creation Col 1:15-18 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    The Resurrection of Christ declares Justification before God ! Rom 4:25 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. Thats Right, Christ's Resurrection equals our Justification if He died for our offences ! That all those for whom Christ died, being that...
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    What or Who is the Church?

    The Old Testament Saints are part of Christ Body the Church, or they will not partake of the resurrection in the Last day which they had an eye to. Christ is the firstfruits 1 Cor 15:12-23 12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    What is Justification by Faith ? Justification by faith is God's declaring personally to a person, in their consciousness, that by Christ, His Blood, they are made just, they are forgiven of all their sins, have no condemnation in Christ, so that the person perceives and lays hold of this...
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    What or Who is the Church?

    I'm going to clarify something. National ethnic Israel was God's people while under the old covenant and it was by national covenant. However within that national covenant Israel was remnant Israel the spiritual body of Christ, God's people He foreknew. That Israel will be conformed to the image...
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    Has Christ established His Kingdom ?

    It looks to me your eyes are blinded friend, Christ reigns now from His Throne, and in His Kingdom, now i will see you at the Judgment.
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    Has Christ established His Kingdom ?

    Lol Christ has a kingdom right now, yet He is not reigning. So whose reigning here and whats the time frame 1 Cor 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
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    Has Christ established His Kingdom ?

    You still lack understanding friend, it doesnt do any good explaining anything to you. Goes in one ear out the other
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    The Difference ! There is a big difference in Justification before God by the Death of Christ, and Justification before our conscious by the Gift of Faith given in the New Birth. Yes even conscious Justification which brings purification and peace of heart or mind, however receiving those...
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