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    Why Universal Atonement is Pelagianism.

    Its the same thing.
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    Why Universal Atonement is Pelagianism.

    Abraham was made righteous, saved by the death of Christ.
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    Why Universal Atonement is Pelagianism.

    albion Thats false, Abraham was Justified before and and had righteousness imputed to him before the Cross Rom 4:1-3 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? 2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God...
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    Why Universal Atonement is Pelagianism.

    lamb Of course not since He didnt die for everyone. Do you deny that those He died for were saved by His death ? If Christ didnt die for one, no sin is forgiven, not even a evil thought that passes through ones mind. If Christ died for an individual, all sin is forgiven, for Christs sake 1...
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    Why Universal Atonement is Pelagianism.

    Yes, but scripture teaches that we are saved by the obedience of one Rom 5:19 19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. To be made righteous is salvation and acceptance with God based upon Christs One obedience unto...
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    Why Universal Atonement is Pelagianism.

    Rejection of Christ is forgiven if He died for one that rejects Him. He forgives them and then grants them repentance, a change of mind Acts 5:31 31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. Its quite...
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    Why Universal Atonement is Pelagianism.

    Thats a contradiction. If you say everyone was objectively forgiven at the Cross because of Jesus death for them, how then say they can be lost because of their rejection of Christ ? Thats saying what they do, trumps what Christs death did. Besides, their rejection of Him should have been...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Christ died for the sins of the world of the many Heb 9:27 28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. This corresponds with the accordance of scripture Isa 53:11,12 He shall see of the...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Yet He was specific as to who He died for. Do you know what specific means ? Specific: having a special application, bearing, or reference; specifying, explicit, or definite:
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    You can disagree all you want, you just disagreeing with the Truth. Christ died for all His Sheep collectively Jn 10
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    So that's who Jesus specifically said He died for. If you go beyond that, you go beyond what He specifically said. He died as the Shepherd of the Sheep, He rose again as the Shepherd of His Sheep Heb 13:20 20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Easily, all the elect or all the Sheep. The word all pas means: collectively some of all types
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    It doesnt have to say that. Its a common given that Christ died specifically for Gods Elect, or Sheep. Who does Jesus specifically say He died for here Jn 10:11,15 11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Everyone of those verses is limited to all of Gods Elect, from amongst the jews and gentiles.
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    Are we now saved, or now called?

    Gods people are saved then called 2 Tim 1:9 9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, He saves them first and makes them Holy by the Spirits...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    The World Christ died for has been saved, that was the purpose for His Death. Did He fail ? I say no Jn 3:16-17 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Rom 8:33 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Paul here means non imputation as in Rom 4:7-8 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute or sin or...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Believeth on Him that Justifies the Ungodly ! Rom 4:5 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. The fact of the matter is this, ones believing [active] is the fruit of God's Justifying. Lets look at Acts 13:38-39...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    More on Justification Rom 8:30 Rom 8:30 30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Those here in this context that God calls, its an effectual call, and all those thus called are...
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