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  1. Albion

    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Interesting guess. Nothing in Scripture says that, however.
  2. Albion

    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    ? I didn't deny that. However, that distinction wouldn't change anything with what we were discussing.
  3. Albion

    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    In other words, God argued with himself and negotiated with himself, finally coming to some sort of compact with himself (!). More of the same. So, having dealt with Modalism, the forum now turns to the issue of Tritheism. :( trī′thē-ĭz″əm noun The belief that the Father, Son, and Holy...
  4. Albion

    Daily defense of the divinity of Jesus Christ!

    Oh yes, but the ones that are broadly accepted as being definitive are the Apostles' Creed, the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed, and perhaps also the Athanasian and Chalcedonian Creeds (which, however, are almost never recited).
  5. Albion

    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Well, no. We were talking about eternal salvation, about the life to come. The example you gave about Noah concerns his physical life on Earth only and says nothing about whether he was "saved" in the sense we had been using the word.
  6. Albion

    Daily defense of the divinity of Jesus Christ!

    Now, to be clear, please explain how that answer ^ squares with this other statement of yours-- "Jesus Christ is the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."
  7. Albion

    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Well, that's exactly what John 3:16 says. 16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."...
  8. Albion

    Daily defense of the divinity of Jesus Christ!

    I meant how does what you said about the Holy Ghost explain what or who the HG is and how that relates to the Father and Son.
  9. Albion

    Daily defense of the divinity of Jesus Christ!

    Yes, but how does that relate to the Father and Son you were talking about before? And how do the three (the Trinity) relate to to each other and compare?
  10. Albion

    Daily defense of the divinity of Jesus Christ!

    God is present everywhere, so that's not getting us anywhere. And as for speaking as one person...what does that even mean? So where is the Holy Spirit in all of that?
  11. Albion

    Daily defense of the divinity of Jesus Christ!

    Again, what do you mean by your statement: "... from whom together eternally proceeds the Holy Spirit." (?) What or who IS the Holy Spirit to you?
  12. Albion

    Daily defense of the divinity of Jesus Christ!

    Are you saying that the Trinity amounts to chopping God up into three pieces or, worse, three gods? That is hardly what the doctrine, which is based upon the Bible, teaches.
  13. Albion

    Daily defense of the divinity of Jesus Christ!

    Sure, but it's not a matter of subscribing to the Creed itself. What makes a heretic and heretic is that he holds to a heresy, and this is defined as a departure from any major belief or dogma. That's the case whether or not it is included in the Creed, although some of the best-known ones are...
  14. Albion

    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Oh, please. :rolleyes: And I covered that. If this is your position, then Josiah is correct. It is not the case that out of the many, many references in Scripture to "all," it is necessary for you only to find just one instance when it means something else in order to invalidate all the...
  15. Albion

    Daily defense of the divinity of Jesus Christ!

    What do you understand by the reference to "the Holy Spirit" in your statement?
  16. Albion

    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    duplicate post.
  17. Albion

    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Using your approach to dismantling the language of the Bible, we who agree with the great majority of Christians and their churches for the past two millennia could just as easily argue that all references to any Elect is just another way of saying -- and understanding -- the people who will in...
  18. Albion

    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Show us how every one of the many examples from Scripture that have been posted here and which seem to be saying every one ("all")... ...actually should be understood to be saying "good ones" or something like that ("qualitative sense") instead. And I don't mean to demand the impossible or...
  19. Albion

    Daily defense of the divinity of Jesus Christ!

    It is. But that's the name of one particular twist on the subject of the nature and identity of God, and Dave rephrases his idea of God very slightly every time he's challenged. So to say that someone is a unitarian is to use a broader description, still referring to him denying the Trinitarian...
  20. Albion

    Daily defense of the divinity of Jesus Christ!

    Your testimony was that Jesus is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. That's not a belief in the Trinity as defined in Scripture and by the Christian Councils. But as you also have made amply clear on a number of occasions, you know more than any of them, so it's not surprising that you...
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