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  1. Albion

    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Of course I understood it. That's why I was prompted to respond. If we'd agreed on all this stuff, a simple "like" icon would have sufficed!
  2. Albion

    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    I'm not sure what you are focusing on by citing that verse, although I know from other posts that you believe in salvation by Faith. God, of course, wants us to do good. Christ taught it constantly, but that doesn't mean going around doing nice things for others earns anybody salvation.
  3. Albion

    REDEMPTION/ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    Yes. What's so difficult to accept about that? -- that Christ died in order to lift the condemnation that affected every mortal up until Calvary, making each of us eligible for salvation for the first time since Adam and Eve...depending upon the life lived by each of us thereafter? Faith...
  4. Albion

    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Many other people make the same mistake you are making there. Believing is not a "good work" AKA a meritorious work that is supposed to put away God's wrath, like helping the proverbial old lady across the street and other similar charitable acts. It's not a work of any kind, not a work at all...
  5. Albion

    REDEMPTION/ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    That is the theory. That is the theory. Because it's only a theory. One of the problems with these threads and this topic is that the several posters who believe in the theory, and who post about almost nothing else, can't agree among themselves what, exactly, it is that they believe about it...
  6. Albion

    REDEMPTION/ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    There's nothing impossible or even difficult in that. IF predestination is a fact, God's choice would be for his Elect to receive Faith, which is the vehicle that saves, and for him to not make that same decision in the case of other people. We accept that it does not sound right to...
  7. Albion

    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    Try some "simple reason" on us and let's see.
  8. Albion

    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    On the contrary, God Almighty was entirely capable of doing what you said there that he couldn't. That's not even close to what Matthew 25:41 actually says. And if we read the preceding verses, we find that the message actually is that those who will spend eternity separated from God are being...
  9. Albion

    REDEMPTION/ATONEMENT: US vs THEM (the L of TULIP)

    (y) Right again. :) The great majority of them at least. And now we'll have a few words from several who don't...:giggle:
  10. Albion

    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Not this again. 😒
  11. Albion

    Our interaction with AI seems to debunk Biblical ideas

    No, but that wasn't the issue.
  12. Albion

    Our interaction with AI seems to debunk Biblical ideas

    Thanks. I don't know why I couldn't find that info in the article, but what you just reprinted makes the reference clear. And I don't doubt that what it says there is real history since basically the same trend had developed in Wesley's own Church of England in his day.
  13. Albion

    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    ?? Don't most people come to Christ, make a decision for Christ, or however we want to describe a conversion experience...by being convinced of the truth of the Bible? Is the idea here that unless roses are seen blooming in the snow or the sun dances and dives in the sky (to name two famous...
  14. Albion

    Our interaction with AI seems to debunk Biblical ideas

    I didn't take issue with that ("Bible says many contradictory things"), but now that you refer to it, I might add that the Bible seems to say many things that appear to be contradictory. Time after time, the "contradictions" turn out not to be contradictions after all when the meaning of...
  15. Albion

    Our interaction with AI seems to debunk Biblical ideas

    I can't find the reference to Wesley saying that the church stopped the miracles. Could you point me to your source? Thanks.
  16. Albion

    The dead malls

    What you wrote was this: and that is what prompted me to say that if you get rid of the structure and make some other use of that site, doing so doesn't amount to "repurposing the mall" because the mall could no longer be converted for a different use.
  17. Albion

    Our interaction with AI seems to debunk Biblical ideas

    The following is one of the postings that seemed to be in that category, but perhaps there is another word that could have been used instead.
  18. Albion

    Our interaction with AI seems to debunk Biblical ideas

    That's interesting, but I find that Gideon--who asked for a sign but didn't present any ultimatums to God and, in fact, was already a believer--represents something different from what I have been reading on this thread.
  19. Albion

    Our interaction with AI seems to debunk Biblical ideas

    It appears that you've already gotten your answers, Lucian. And the Bible does not in any way or in any place say to challenge God. In fact, it's just the opposite. “You shall not put the LORD your God to the test, as you tested him at Massah" (Deuteronomy 6:16) "Jesus answered, “It is said...
  20. Albion

    Our interaction with AI seems to debunk Biblical ideas

    As you said there, it was "they," actual people, the Apostles and their appointees, NOT just anyone claiming to be a prophet, etc. Here's an interesting article you might like to read. It's not very long. https://www.gotquestions.org/Word-Faith.html
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