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  1. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    Rome wasn't the only church that believed in the Real Presence and that has been pointed out to you a few times.
  2. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    There WAS unity in belief of the Real Presence until Zwingli turned against scripture and brought the symbolic only belief into the churches causing discord. To this day that discord exists. Maybe you should not believe what Zwingli taught since it's what is causing discord and isn't what the...
  3. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    Lutherans don't believe in re-sacrifice but nice tangent. Is still means is.
  4. Lamb

    the fruit of the Spirit

    Sometimes when people don't feel well they will come across in the manner you've written above.
  5. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    The Real Presence does not go against scripture so to answer your question, no. Now, there might be other traditions that do go against scripture and I might be against those.
  6. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    You're right, Josiah! We never read about arguing amongst the early church fathers concerning the Real Presence. That's because they didn't think it was purely symbolic. They knew it was HOLY Communion :)
  7. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    Here is a great quote from Luther and it's along the lines of how I see it when God said Let there be light, there was light. "When the living Christ comes into the midst of His gathered congregation today and says “This is My body” and “This is My blood,” it is not a matter that human...
  8. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    Seriously Snerfle, you haven't anything more to say about Holy Communion, do you? Some of us would like to continue talking about it so please don't think that we're purposely causing divisions by enjoying discussions of scripture.
  9. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    You're free to stop discussing Holy Communion at any time. Some of us would like to continue.
  10. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    If you understood the Lutheran position you wouldn't be asking those questions.
  11. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    No. Tradition validates what Jesus said. This is my body. This is my blood. You chose to believe what Zwingli introduced and made popular symbolic view: He developed the symbolic view of the Eucharist. He denied the Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation and following Cornelius Henrici Hoen...
  12. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    As have I and Josiah and Albion and probably all the other members here.
  13. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    There seems to be some inability for you to read what has been written in this thread. I didn't say I only had a thousand years but OVER a thousand. Ren's pdf file was not proof as I clearly showed since early pages into it actually proved that the early church believed the Lord's Supper was...
  14. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    I'm not desperate for anything. I just have over a thousand years of proof as my back up along with scripture. And again, you're thinking that transubstantiation is what people mean when they say Real Presence. How many times do you need to be corrected on that?
  15. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    I write what scripture teaches and the early churches (started by the apostles) and the early church fathers back it up. Your symbolic tradition didn't begin until Zwingli started promoting it.
  16. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    I see now that in Chapter 3 your author has taken upon himself to give HIS interpretation of scripture. He also tries to redefine what a sacrament is which is his modern take of the word. I see he brings in the Didache but even the didache says that the Lord's Supper is holy as it includes the...
  17. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    I think that even though I corrected you in the Lutheran thread that you have no clue what Lutherans believe in regards to the Real Presence in Holy Communion. This is why you believe there are only 2 belief systems in place. You err in this thinking.
  18. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    I appreciate you posting that. It confirms that the early church thought that the Lord's Supper was "holy" and that they received the body of the Lord as mentioned within the document in multiple spots. I'm halfway through it now :)
  19. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    Did you see who began those churches? They were Jewish. Now, please, if you can find any proof, which I doubt, list the churches here that held a symbolic view from the ancient days.
  20. Lamb

    COMMUNION: Does "is" mean "is?" Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical

    All of these ancient churches believe in the Real Presence: -- The church in Iberia (Spain), founded by James the Greater. -- The church in Jerusalem, whose first bishop was James the Lesser. -- The Coptic Church in Egypt, founded by St. Mark -- The Assyrian Church of the East (predecessor to...
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