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  1. Arsenios

    Justification

    Well, no wonder we are missing each other here - Either you have a radical mis-translation of the text of vs [12] in Matthew 11... Or else it is I who am radically being misled by a bad translation... I was simply doing a KJV derivative... Perhaps we can do a literal: ἀπὸ δὲ τῶν...
  2. Arsenios

    Justification

    I was focusing on the practical implications of being able to do NOTHING for the sake of attaining one's own Salvation which IS the Gift of God... For the Orthodox, Praxis is everything - The Original Christians were called "The People of the Way", and this referred to their MANNER of Life...
  3. Arsenios

    Justification

    Well, I quoted: "For by Grace are we Saved through Faith, and that not from ourselves: Of God the Gift." And I asked about this Gift, and how I might obtain it. What can I DO so that it will be GIVEN to me? And your answer is: "You can do absolutely NOTHING to receive this Gift." I think I...
  4. Arsenios

    Justification

    The Latins were suffering under the exercise of their possession of great worldly power... Arsenios
  5. Arsenios

    Justification

    OK - So when Christ blinded Saul on the Road to Damascus, He asked this: "Saul, Saul! Why are you persecuting ME?" So since all ol' Saul had been doing was cleaning up after a bunch of rag-tag Jewish false-believers, how COULD Christ call those followers of His ME??? Had ProtoMartyr Stephen...
  6. Arsenios

    Justification

    So I can just grab a beer and the remote and some chips and dip and turn on the Game and yell at my wife and kids and beat them when they do not serve me enough? And continue grabbing the waitress too? And demanding my government benefits when I feel bored? Did not Christ show something...
  7. Arsenios

    Justification

    I don't think that your words above are from Ephesians... Nor are these below: Here is the text... Eph 1:14 ὅς ἐστιν ἀρραβὼν τῆς κληρονομίας ἡμῶν, εἰς ἀπολύτρωσιν τῆς περιποιήσεως, εἰς ἔπαινον τῆς δόξης αὐτοῦ. Which is the earnest of our inheritance unto the redemption...
  8. Arsenios

    Justification

    You are drawing the wrong teaching from the story, which was showing the ontological asking for, and then actual and real receiving of, the Grace of God... It had nothing to do with busting knees... And eventually, mind you, I will recover, however slightly it may prove to work out...
  9. Arsenios

    Justification

    Heck, I thought I was doing pretty good finding the keyboard! A.
  10. Arsenios

    Justification

    I am still trying to find someone who will answer this question: If Christ gives Salvation to man, what is it that He gives? I agree that only God CAN give Salvation... But what is the Salvation that only He CAN give? Then what does man have to do in order that God give him Salvation? Arsenios
  11. Arsenios

    In Christ

    Well, we do know that it is God Who Gives Salvation, and that it is man who repents from his sins... Scripture does not exactly say that Salvation is some combination of Justification and Sanctification... It states: "From the time of John the Baptist until now, the Kingdom of Heaven is...
  12. Arsenios

    In Christ

    Most in the west do disagree... Yet the first word of the Gospel is the Commandment to Repent! John the Babtizer of Christ came baptizing, saying: "Be ye repenting!..." Christ Himself affirmed his words! And Peter affirmed Christ's words... So for my poor old addled brain, that pretty much...
  13. Arsenios

    Can babies be conscious of their baptism?

    Yes - The new mother recovering from birth is given 40 days to recover from the pangs of birth with the new child outside the Church Services... She then is re-Churched and the child is baptized and given communion... We do somewhat the same for war veterans - They are taken out of Communion...
  14. Arsenios

    Can babies be conscious of their baptism?

    STRONGS NT 3767: οὖν οὖν a conjunction indicating that something follows from another necessarily; It at least means "accordingly", which does not imply necessity or necessarily - It simply means "in accordance with..." So that the actions are not forced, but flow naturally one into the...
  15. Arsenios

    Can babies be conscious of their baptism?

    Add a little soap and a brush, plus a rinse, and at least they will have had one bath in their lives! :) We Baptize and give Holy Communion to the newborn at the re-Churching of the Mother 40 days after birth... That infant is at that point a full member of the Body of Christ... He or She...
  16. Arsenios

    Can babies be conscious of their baptism?

    If Baptism is understood as Christ entering a person into His Body, as the Ancient Faith understands it, then the intellectual understanding of the child is not an issue at all, though that of the parents/adults is... And Christ did say: "Permit the little ones to come unto Me..." The parents...
  17. Arsenios

    In Christ

    So how are we entered INTO Christ such that we may say we are IN Christ? The Gospel of John who was baptizing is: "Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!" Upon his beheading, Christ Himself took up the same proclamation... And after Christ's Resurrection and Ascension, Peter did the same...
  18. Arsenios

    Justification

    Well, justification by God is not a mere legal fiction declared by God - That is a silly notion... The race is ongoing to the end, living a repentant life and conducting one's self as a member of the Body of Christ - Which means participating insofar as one can in the daily Services of the...
  19. Arsenios

    Justification

    "Justify" is a verb in Greek, of which all the other translations are versions... dikaiw... It is the action of the dik- root, which means "right-" or "rect-", and it means to make right, to "rectify"... We find it, for instance, here: Rom 3:30 Seeing it is one God, Who shall justify the...
  20. Arsenios

    Justification

    And Hedrik here too? Too good! Arsenios
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