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  1. Arsenios

    Justification - Part 2

    God Bless ya, George! It bothers me too! Anti-Biblical, I say! Arsenios
  2. Arsenios

    (No Debate) What things would make you leave your church?

    For me, that question means "What things would make me leave the Body of Christ?" And the answer to that of course no worldly thing ever... And IF the particular congregation in which I worship were to do bad things or teach false doctrines, I would lay down my life for its correction... Were...
  3. Arsenios

    Justification - Part 2

    If we are made totally right with God instantly once for all time, then we cannot sin... Because sin is not right with God... This Faith is an ongoing and lifetime struggle in this fallen human condition... That struggle is willful... God works on us through our struggle... But what I was...
  4. Arsenios

    Justification - Part 2

    So which which is which? Saying so don't make it so... Gotta show so... Perhaps it's hard for you to show the difference??? Arsenios
  5. Arsenios

    Justification - Part 2

    Why are YOU repenting? I mean, I get mad and flip off a bad driver on the road and yell unseemly things at her... Perhaps suggesting certain facts not necessarily in evidence about her ancestors or thereabouts... Now in your view, I am in a POSITION of Holiness before God... And I have...
  6. Arsenios

    Justification - Part 2

    YUP... The Gospel is proven in your own flesh... YOU are to MORTIFY your fleshy members... You are to SUBJUGATE your flesh so that it no longer rules your spirit, but your spirit in obedience to the Holy Spirit rules your flesh... Your Old Man needs to be overcome and put to death... The...
  7. Arsenios

    Justification - Part 2

    Sometimes you just have to let it go, Menno... Overcoming Obsession is a good thing... Your "Big Butt" Obsession kinda stinks... Jes' sayin'!! :):) Arsenios
  8. Arsenios

    Justification - Part 2

    The crux is that we disagree on the sequencing... For us, Justification follows our Repentance in response to the Call of the Gospel unto Repentance... For others, the Call to Repentance is ignored, and Justification is the Beginning of Life in Christ... So that for us, Repentance is unto...
  9. Arsenios

    Justification - Part 2

    The only way to actually PROVE Scripture is in your own flesh... Christ proved it by ascending the Cross for us sinners... Christians follow Christ... Arsenios
  10. Arsenios

    Justification - Part 2

    Jas 2:24 Ye see then how that out of works a man is justified, and not by faith alone. There is no way to parse this sentence except to say that a man is Justified out of his works, and it is peerfectly consonant with the fact that it is God Who Justifies a man... As a simple matter of...
  11. Arsenios

    Justification - Part 2

    Why do you need to repent? Do you not have Christ in you? Are you not fully Justified? Is there anything more sanctified than Christ IN you? What is your goal, your purpose, in repenting from sin? Or... Why does God have you repenting now? Arsenios
  12. Arsenios

    Justification - Part 2

    Who??? Me??? Of course... Er... Yes, I mean, yes, of course I do... Er... Mean yes, that is, I mean of course... Arsenios :):):)
  13. Arsenios

    Justification - Part 2

    So do sinners need to repent? Arsenios
  14. Arsenios

    SPIRITUAL MORSELS from the Ancient Fathers

    "Whoever sees in himself the traces of hatred toward any man, on account of any kind of sin, is completely foreign to the love of God. For love toward God does not at all tolerate hatred for man." St. Maximos the Confessor Chapters on Love, 1.15 First Millennium... Arsenios
  15. Arsenios

    Justification - Part 2

    Heed your other three fingers! :) Arsenios
  16. Arsenios

    Justification - Part 2

    Indeed Adam FELL by disobedience to God... Is it such a great stretch that we in Adam should rist through obedience to God? Not that obedience saves us, but that through the works of obedience, we become saved by God... Jamess 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not...
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    SPIRITUAL MORSELS from the Ancient Fathers

    Saint Ephraim the Syrian (306 – 373), “The Church is not the assembly of saints, it is the mass of sinners who are repenting, who, sinners though they are, have turned towards God and are oriented towards Him.”
  18. Arsenios

    Justification - Part 2

    Thank-you - We agree that we ARE Justified by God... And that we are NOT justified BY our works... Arsenios
  19. Arsenios

    Justification - Part 2

    Would that you take your own advice! What was it Paul said about cutting off the cut-it-off Circumcision Party? Gal 5:12 Would that were those troubling you also cut off... Arsenios
  20. Arsenios

    Justification - Part 2

    Forgive me my Sister... I can be provocative... We are God's People here... This is a family spat... Controlling people is not what we do... God Bless your good heart... Arsenios
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