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    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Motives? Maybe you need to watch my video on the Pyramids and the Flood. The unbelieving Jews clearly tampered with the Hebrew Scriptures. My motive was to provide an answer for the atheists who asked, not to attack the Jews. The fact that the Jews tampered with the text is just a fact. Like it...
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    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Yea, there was a debate because the unbelieving Jews poisoned the minds of Christians into thinking those books don’t belong. Truth is, if the church has not declared these books scripture and preserve them, the Jews would have no stories to read during Hanukah, because they would all be lost...
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    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    You’re missing the point. When people say the Apocrypha is not scripture, they say that the main REASON WHY is because the New Testament does not reference it. But it does. And Hebrews 11 references 2 Maccabees as a part of Biblical history. I went to grade school and I know what context is...
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    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Penaickled, What in the world are you talking about? You’re not showing any examples of someone quenching the flames [emoji91] of fire by faith. You’re just repeating stuff that happens in the tabernacle [emoji554]️. Hebrews 11:34 is a reference to the book of Daniel. There’s nothing else it...
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    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Pinneculled, Who was it who by faith quenched the flames of fire? It has to be Old Testament. Hebrews 11 specifies that.
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    Why do Christians practically worship the King James version?

    You got that right. I mean, I’ve found some things that the KJV gets right that modern versions get wrong. But nonetheless, it’s still vastly different than the Bible of the early church.
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    Why do Christians practically worship the King James version?

    I mean, it’s not the Bible that was used by the early church. In fact, it’s radically different than the Bible of the early church. Why should this 17th century translation be placed on such a high pedestal? Shouldn’t the Bible of the early church be the revered translation?
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    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Pineacre, Where else in the Old Testament was anyone thrown into a firey oven and survived? The only account is in Daniel with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego. And obviously, Hebrews 11:34 doesn’t have to mention the book name of Daniel in order to know that’s the book it’s referencing. So...
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    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Pinakled, Don’t you agree that Hebrews 11:34 is referencing Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego?
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    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Do you think Vaticanus contained Maccabees originally, but had it ripped out at some point in time? I know it included Tobit and Judith.
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    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Hebrews 11:35 says that these men were: 1. Tortured. 2. Given a chance to be delivered. 3. Refused to be delivered. 4. Hoped for a better resurrection. The story in 2 Maccabees 7 says that they were: 1. Tortured by king Antiochus. 2. Were given a chance to be delivered by eating pork. 3...
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    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    You haven’t explained who the men are who by faith quenched the flames of fire. If not the story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego, then who? If it’s not referencing Daniel, then what? You see, you’re not making any sense.
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    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Did you even read what I said? I said that Hebrews 11:34 references the story of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego without actually mentioning the book of Daniel by name. But you just ignored what I said and insist that a book’s title must be mentioned in order for it to be referenced. This is...
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    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Right. I have no clue what he’s even talking about.
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    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Why is it such a crime to want to use the Bible used by the early church?
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    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Denies the resurrection???? What?? I believe the New Testament. What on Earth are you talking about?
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    Doesn’t the book of Hebrews reference Maccabees?

    Yup. Maccabees is real history, and fulfills Daniel’s prophecies. What a tragedy that so many Christians are unfamiliar with it. And yea, pinacle’s comments are really off-the-wall and unrelated.
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