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  1. Origen

    O.T. quotes in the N.T.

    This is my seventh example. In this example I provide an English translation under the Greek texts. 1 Corinthians 2:9 ἃ ὀφθαλμὸς οὐκ εἶδεν καὶ οὖς οὐκ ἤκουσεν What no eye has seen, nor ear heard καὶ ἐπὶ καρδίαν ἀνθρώπου οὐκ ἀνέβη nor the heart of man imagined ἃ ἡτοίμασεν ὁ θεὸς τοῖς...
  2. Origen

    Excerpts from Enoch

    Sometimes the N.T. follows the Greek text, sometimes it follows the Hebrew text, and sometime it does not follow either one. We can tell which one the N.T. is following simply by comparing the texts. Your claim is nonsense. Not really. It proves that Jude did not follow the actual quote...
  3. Origen

    Excerpts from Enoch

    A close analysis reveals those quotes have very significant differences. Ἰδοὺ ἦλθεν κύριος ἐν ἁγίαις μυριάσιν αὐτοῦ ποιῆσαι κρίσιν κατὰ πάντων καὶ ἐλέγξαι πᾶσαν ψυχὴν περὶ πάντων τῶν ἔργων ἀσεβείας αὐτῶν ὧν ἠσέβησαν καὶ περὶ πάντων τῶν σκληρῶν ὧν...
  4. Origen

    God hates certain people.

    No near eastern languages scholar accepts his claims. Dr. Michael L. Brown, who has a Ph.D in Near Eastern Languages and Literature, has a video adding this nonsense you might like to watch.
  5. Origen

    God hates certain people.

    Benner is not a Hebrew language scholar. He has no academic training whatsoever. This is Hebrew verb "to hate" is שָׂנֵא and it has nothing to do with nouns "thorn" or "seed." This is the Hebrew noun for "seed" זֶ֫רַע. This is the Hebrew noun for "thorn" קוֹץ. All examples taken from The...
  6. Origen

    God hates certain people.

    Where did you get that information?
  7. Origen

    Excerpts from Enoch

    I find this one interesting. Excerpt Four Enoch 40:8-10 After that I asked the angel of peace who went with me, who showed me everything that is hidden: ‘Who are these four presences which I have seen and whose words I have heard and written down?’ And he said to me: ‘This first is Michael, the...
  8. Origen

    Excerpts from Enoch

    Jude NEVER mentions the BOOK of Enoch, and no matter how many time you falsely say he does won't make it true.
  9. Origen

    God hates certain people.

    It's idiomatic Hebrew. Idiom - a group of words established by usage as having a meaning not deducible from those of the individual words An excellent example can be found in Gen. 29:30. "He [i.e. Jacob] loved Rachel more than Leah." According to this verse both women were loved by Jacob...
  10. Origen

    Excerpts from Enoch

    O ye of little faith
  11. Origen

    Excerpts from Enoch

    This might be helpful. 1 Enoch 67:1-2 "And in those days the word of God came unto me, and He said unto me: ‘Noah, thy lot has come up before Me, a lot without blame, a lot of love and uprightness. And now the angels are making a wooden (building), and when they have completed that task..." See...
  12. Origen

    Excerpts from Enoch

    Thank you.
  13. Origen

    Excerpts from Enoch

    Perhaps you should check your source's references before you post their misleading claims. I immediately saw the error. Nickelsburg clearly states on page 185: "G [i.e. the Greek] and E [i.e. the Ethiopic] specify their height as 3,000 and 300 cubits, respectively." respectively - separately...
  14. Origen

    Excerpts from Enoch

    I have the Greek text in front of me which says otherwise. You don't understand what you are reading. Here is the Greek text. αἱ δὲ ἐν γαστρὶ λαβοῦσαι ἐτέκοσαν γίγαντας μεγάλους ἐκ πηχῶν τρισχιλίων As anyone can see the word three thousand is found in the Greek text of 1 Enoch...
  15. Origen

    Excerpts from Enoch

    Allow me to fill in the many gaps left and correct misleading comments with accurate and honest information. It is the only way to truly understand any issue. First, the figure 3,000 cubits is found in Codex Panopolitanus. This codex dates to the 5th or 6th century and is the oldest Greek...
  16. Origen

    Excerpts from Enoch

  17. Origen

    Excerpts from Enoch

    Dont care. It was your evidence.
  18. Origen

    Excerpts from Enoch

    I did not insist anything and I never said mermaids. It is amusing how you get even the simplest of facts wrong. That is your opinion and I see no reason to believe it. Again that is your opinion and I see no reason to believe it. I didn't. You did. If you don't care for it perhaps you...
  19. Origen

    Excerpts from Enoch

    If you want to believe the book of 1 Enoch is referencing a lizard native to the Carolinas, using as your poof the Webster’s 1828 dictionary, then by all means go for it. I feel very comfortable letting those who read this thread decide for themselves if they find your claim in any way...
  20. Origen

    Excerpts from Enoch

    No need. Others reading this thread know what mean.
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