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  1. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    Then there is hope even for me! A.
  2. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    More Orthodox Christians were killed in the last century because they were Orthodox Christians than were martyred in the entire history of the Christian Faith on earth... We are being persecuted this day as we speak here and now... ISIS and other radical Muslim groups kidnap and enslave and...
  3. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    We definitely have Salvation, and we are seeking it, and will receive it, and are receiving it... Orthodox Catholic Christianity 101... We hold the Mystery of the Faith in a purged conscience... Arsenios
  4. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    "I will be found by them not seeking me..." Arsenios
  5. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    We ARE the Catholic Church, and this view is taught by the second largest [because the most persecuted] Christian Church on earth... Well if you believe that the Church got it wrong from 34AD onward, then Christ failed and we can thank God for Luther and the printing presses which came along...
  6. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    No, I am saying that they do not contribute anything to the Gift God Gives [eg Salvation by Grace] What they do effect is HOW MUCH of that Grace we can RETAIN... With your undeerstanding, you have ruled out the possibility of a straight answer... A straight answer is perceived by you as a...
  7. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    Salvation is a work of the Risen Christ together with fallen man... "I came to Call sinners to Repentance." Remember??? Not all sinners come when called to repentance... YOU determine IF you will or IF you will NOT... This is called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY... And it is a matter of Life and...
  8. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    Psalm 116:13 I will take the cup of Salvation, and call upon the Name of the LORD. How about you? Arsenios
  9. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    You deny that man has a role. You affirm that God alone does all the work... You deny any human role... Man had a role in the Fall... Man has a role in the Resurrection... That role is NOT the role of self-salvation... Arsenios
  10. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    Yes - Salvation in Christ is not against our will, but requires, according to God's Will, that we exercise our fallen will unto God, and then He heals us... We do not contribute anything to the Salvation of God... Indeed, it is the very exercise of our will that LIMITS the amount of Grace we...
  11. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    Psalm 116:13 I will take the cup of Salvation, and call upon the Name of the LORD. How about you? Arsenios
  12. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    That is the focus - Without overcoming the enemy that wants to kill you, you will die in the battle... And Salvation is salvation from death, which Christ overcame, and which we can overcome in Christ... Arsenios
  13. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    The confusion comes because God is not alone, and it is man's WILL that CAUSED our FALL from LIFE in ADAM... That human will is the tip of the spear in this combat, and it must overcome self-will in order to efficaciously receive God's will... This in no way at all EARNS God's Will, but is...
  14. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    The works are not added to one's Salvation - The initial works of repentance are a matter of preparation in order that one be discipled as Christ discipled His Disciples... They are discipled to OBSERVE all that Christ commanded the Apostles - That means living and doing the WAY of Christian...
  15. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    That is Biblical - The Jews had Salvation by faith alone, because they were already prepared under the Law... Only a remnant received this Salvation, and many of them still thought that the Law was needed and they formed up into the "Circumcision Parties" that Paul led the charge against...
  16. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    Ya gotta walk the talk, Menno... You no walka da talka you no gotta da Grace... God's Grace is a Gift because it CANNOT BE EARNED... I mean, how ya gonna EARN GOD??? Arsenios
  17. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    Thank you for your prayers for me... Blame-gaming is for sissies! Arsenios
  18. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    The Defense Rests! :) Arsenios
  19. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    Christ repeatedly discipled His disciples to love one another... And Paul concurred and to love ALL men... 1Thess 3:12 And the Lord make you to increase and abound in love one toward another, and toward all men, even as we do toward you: To love others as Christ-God loved us - Unto...
  20. Arsenios

    Salvation - Part 2

    We are not saved BY works THROUGH Grace... But we are saved BY Grace THROUGH obedience to the Gospel... Obedience to the Gospel, if done by willing and voluntary intent, is the Faith of Christ... Involuntary obedience, not so much... Forgive me - I was unaware I had insulted you... I simply...
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