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    Work Out Salvation

    I can’t argue with that. I just thought after 19 posts Someone should post the actual verse that says “work out your salvation” and it should be read in context.
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    Work Out Salvation

    Context is everything: Philippians 2:1-14 NASB 1 Therefore if there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and compassion, 2 make my joy complete by being of the same mind, maintaining the same love, united...
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    What did the post apostolic church believe?

    They were 5 point calvinists ... they just used different terms than the Reformation. :birgits_giggle:
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    Can babies be conscious of their baptism?

    Personally, I think that it would be nice for the child to remember his baptism as an adult.
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    Is Immersion required by Scripture when a baptism is performed?

    Did you REALLY want me to respond by posting all of the teams of translators that did not include the word 'table' or 'couch'? That is what I was attempting to avoid by just assuming you knew that the ESV and NASB did not include those words. As I pointed out once already, 'baptizo' can mean to...
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    Is Immersion required by Scripture when a baptism is performed?

    You should really identify what you are posting if I am to comment on it. How do I know this wasn't written by the Jehovah's Witnesses? OK, somebody said something.
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    Is Immersion required by Scripture when a baptism is performed?

    Thank you. It goes a little beyond this topic [and frankly, my skill level] to debate original manuscript evidence for the correct original Greek wording of a verse. I would point out that the KJV was written before most manuscripts were actually even discovered and is limited in its accuracy...
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    Is Immersion required by Scripture when a baptism is performed?

    The comment has been made, several times, that the early church and early church writers performed 'baptisms' by means other than immersion in a river. For the record, I do not deny this, nor am I personally opposed to other forms of baptism. However, their practice is being thrown up as...
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    Is Immersion required by Scripture when a baptism is performed?

    Mark 7:1-4 NASB 1 The Pharisees and some of the scribes gathered around Him when they had come from Jerusalem, 2 and had seen that some of His disciples were eating their bread with impure hands, that is, unwashed. 3 (For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they carefully wash their...
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    Is Immersion required by Scripture when a baptism is performed?

    Let’s look at the first verse and see if your claim ‘holds water’. Acts 11:15-16 NASB And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them just as He did upon us at the beginning. And I remembered the word of the Lord, how He used to say, ‘John baptized with water, but you will be baptized...
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    Is Immersion required by Scripture when a baptism is performed?

    Here is EVERY New Testement reference to a “table” and NONE of them seem to have been baptized. It has been claimed here several times that tables were baptized, but I have seen no Biblical evidence. Mat 8:11. “I say to you that many will come from east and west, and [fn]recline at the table...
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    Is Immersion required by Scripture when a baptism is performed?

    Where? What specific verse lists tables? The last specific verse you presented, I did adddress as listing cups and pitchers and pots (post 36) ... all of which are easily immersed.
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    Is Immersion required by Scripture when a baptism is performed?

    John 2:6 NASB Now there were six stone waterpots set there for the Jewish custom of purification, containing twenty or thirty gallons each. I requested a verse where 'baptizo' could not possibly mean 'immersion'. What would lead you to believe that it was impossible to ceremonially 'wash your...
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    Is Immersion required by Scripture when a baptism is performed?

    Where could 'baptizo' in scripture NOT have meant immersion? Point out the verse, please.
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    Is Immersion required by Scripture when a baptism is performed?

    Let's apply your technique to other words. They crucified Jesus. Crucify: 1. put (someone) to death by nailing or binding them to a cross, especially as an ancient punishment. 2. criticize (someone) severely and unrelentingly. So Jesus may not have died from being nailed to a cross at all...
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    Is Immersion required by Scripture when a baptism is performed?

    Nice try, but false: 'glossa' has only two possible meanings ... the physical tongue OR a language. You are still redefining the Greek word based on possible meanings of the English translation rather than its use in many Greek manuscripts. γλῶσσα glōssa, gloce-sah'; of uncertain affinity; the...
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    Is Immersion required by Scripture when a baptism is performed?

    An irrelevant attack on a 16th Century conspiracy theory ... what a surprise.
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    Is Immersion required by Scripture when a baptism is performed?

    The PRIMARY (central, core, innate ... not most common) meaning of the Greek word 'baptizo' is to plunge under or immerse. All of the other meanings, literal and figurative are derived from that primary core meaning. So for example, 'baptizo' could mean to be overwhelmed by troubles, and the...
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    Is Immersion required by Scripture when a baptism is performed?

    Answered in post 40. Your assumptions about how dictionaries work are mistaken.
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    Is Immersion required by Scripture when a baptism is performed?

    ... or any Bibles either. Just thousands of plays and essays and written documents that can be used to create a dictionary of the language of the era. Based on Jewish Traditions and Greek Philosophies (the same that gave birth to the many early heresies as well), not on the word 'baptizo'...
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