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  1. Arsenios

    Jesus Christ, died for all

    I took you to be arguing for complacency because: "God gave you a perfect heart clean and pure, you have nothing to work for, the work is finished." I am only scratching the surface of the work to be done... We are all works in progress... Arsenios
  2. Arsenios

    God still chooses.

    Well, the people did ask for a king... 1Sa 10:19 And ye have this day rejected your God, who Himself saved you out of all your adversities and your tribulations; and ye have said unto Him, "Nay, but set a king over us." Now therefore present yourselves before the LORD by your tribes, and...
  3. Arsenios

    What is God's role in salvation?

    Wise words indeed, MoreCoffee... Let me pour you another cup! Arsenios
  4. Arsenios

    Paul's description of salvation "in Christ"

    That is an impressive report of understandings! Thank-you... Did you write a paper on this passage? For myself, I think he is speaking of spiritual matters in the discipling of the Church... "As deceiving yet true..." on this take would be the use of Parables where "seeing they perceive...
  5. Arsenios

    Paul's description of salvation "in Christ"

    I used this quote on another thread, but it would seem to be very appropriate here... 2Co 6:1-10 We then, as workers together with Him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain. (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I...
  6. Arsenios

    Jesus Christ, died for all

    We are Baptized INTO Christ, yes? And then we GROW in Christ, yes? And there is no limit to that growth, yes? Because Christ is not limited, yes? So kicking back and resting... Have a beer and grab the remote... Scorns the Gift Christ gives to us... The Parable of the Talents fits here...
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    How Smart is Self?

    The real Mystery is the beard on your glorious Avatar! Is that a cap on his head? Arsenios
  8. Arsenios

    How Smart is Self?

    Spoken like a true Sage! Self cannot heal itself, but God can... One CAN turn from sin when God Calls one to repentance... Such turning away does not heal, except incrementally... It simply stops the doing of sin... Only God can actually heal... And apart from God's Call to repentance, people...
  9. Arsenios

    Jesus Christ, died for all

    Christ's sacrifice was not vicarious - It was actual and real... It was not vicarious for us, but actual and real... It demonstrated the truth that Christ confessed: "But be for good cheer - For I have overcome the world." We too are Called of God to FOLLOW Christ... To overcome the world... To...
  10. Arsenios

    Jesus Christ, died for all

    Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. Jesus died for each and every single sinner now in hell... Love and hate are used here prior to Christ in order to be understood... The question is WHY did God love Jacob and hate Esau? You could argue the same with...
  11. Arsenios

    Paul's description of salvation "in Christ"

    CHRIST commanded the Apostles to disciple all the nations, baptizing them... YOU say the Holy Spirit does the baptizing... Forgive me if I take Christ's word and not your opinion... Arsenios
  12. Arsenios

    Jesus Christ, died for all

    That is almost fair... :) Sufficient for all... Effective for all who are repenting... All are capable of repenting... Not all live repentance from evil... The Calvinist view sees man as a billiard ball, dead and cold and incapable of anything other than evil... The Orthodox view sees man as...
  13. Arsenios

    Jesus Christ, died for all

    Welcome to the real purgatory! :) Arsenios
  14. Arsenios

    Paul's description of salvation "in Christ"

    The Bible says we are Baptized INTO Christ, and that Christ was Baptized in the Jordan's waters... Where does it say Baptism is symbolic of the deeds of the Holy Spirit already performed...? And where in the Bible is this false belief found? Arsenios
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    Paul's description of salvation "in Christ"

    Act 10:47 Can any man forbid the Water, that these should not be Baptized, who have received the Holy Spirit as well as we? Why do they need Baptism if they are already Baptized? What is the Biblical point of the Water? Arsenios
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    Jesus Christ, died for all

    Well, are you arguing that His Sacrifice is only sufficient for SOME sinners? I think it is adequate for ALL sinners... Most do not receive it... I do not blame God for that... I blame the ones not unbelief... God is not the Source of evil... Arsenios
  17. Arsenios

    Jesus Christ, died for all

    Well then, that is whom Jesus died for... How do you know that? Where does the Bible say that? Is this mere personal opinion, or can you cite something from Scripture saying so...? Did they not repent from their sins? So Christ choosing them guarantees their Atonement? Were they...
  18. Arsenios

    Jesus Christ, died for all

    So do you think that there are certain sinners whom Jesus did not die for? Does the Bible say, for instance, that Christ only died for certain sinners and not for others? And then did He help us to know which witches are which? Arsenios
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    Jesus Christ, died for all

    Well, if Jesus dies for sinners, and all are sinners, then it would seem to follow that he died for all (sinners)... Some just love self and hate God and will not obey Christ's Commandments... I mean, they just rear up and say: "NO WAY!!!" "Gimme my sins!!" Arsenios
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    Jesus Christ, died for all

    Referring to the great Jesus Prayer in John, I would imagine... I read that as referring to the particular Apostles God gave Him... He excluded the world, and prayed only for those who are His... And for those believing through them, as I recall... So do you think that there are certain sinners...
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