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    work out your own salvation Php 2:12

    Oooh ... exegesis of scripture. How refreshing. :thumbsup: Good question. I wonder if you will get an answer? [EDIT: Looks like you did, while I was typing MY response.] :) For me, the answer is obvious: [Eph 1:13-14 NIV] 13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message...
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    Calvinism Vs Arminian

    I think it deliberately stops short of saying that BECAUSE Scripture stops short of saying that. One can read between the lines and draw logical arguments, but that is not the same as having God state something as a fact. God clearly states that SOME are chosen. The Bible is also clear that...
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    Understanding Election

    Many months ago, I was active daily on a handful of ‘Christian’ sites. Discussing, debating and defending Scripture and my beliefs. It was exhausting and spiritually unhealthy, fostering a bunker mentality that was not edifying. I only returned to two of those sites very recently because a...
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    Calvinism Vs Arminian

    You quoted the Calvinist Corner as defining the U of TULIP as ... “Unconditional Election: God does not base His election on anything He sees in the individual. He chooses the elect according to the kind intention of His will (Eph. 1:4-8; Rom. 9:11) without any consideration of merit within the...
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    Calvinism Vs Arminian

    A lesson in the meaning of words ... ver·ba·tim /vərˈbādəm/ adverb & adjective in exactly the same words as were used originally. I did a search and found only ONE verse that said, verbatim, “he died for all”. I stand by the accuracy of my statement.
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    Calvinism Vs Arminian

    I believe that you are simply reading things into TULIP that are not there. Is EVERYONE “Chosen/Elect” as the Scripture defines that Greek term, or are some chosen and some not? I read that statement and see it saying nothing more or less than Scripture does. Jacob was Chosen, Esau was not...
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    Calvinism Vs Arminian

    This statement is inaccurate hyperbole. There is only ONE verse that states that “verbatim” ... [2Co 5:15 NASB] 15 and He died for all, so that they who live might no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died and rose again on their behalf. ... so MANY here cannot have listed MANY, MANY...
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    Understanding Election

    Since the general consensus is that EVERY topic needs to be an argument about Calvinism, and I have no desire to participate in that particular game ... ... I leave you all to it. I’ll be back in a few months to see if anything changes. In the mean time, enjoy.
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    Understanding Election

    For each of those Old Testament examples (which were very insightful), the TASK they were chosen to perform was usually clearly known in advance ... God told Abram why he was leaving his home and traveling to a distant land. So what were we Elected/Chosen for? What is our purpose and task?
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    Understanding Election

    Do you mean to imply that ELECTION and PREDESTINATION are the same thing? “Elect” or “Chosen” is the English translation of a very specific Greek word. That the word and the concept that word represents is in the Bible cannot be denied. “Predestination” is also in the Bible, but it is...
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    Understanding Election

    Let’s talk about ELECTION using Scripture as our starting point. The word ‘elect’ is from “eklektos” and is Strong’s [G1588]. Here are all the scripture verses where it appears for handy reference: [Mat 22:14 NASB] 14 "For many are called, but few [are] chosen."[G1588] [Mat 24:22, 24, 31...
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    Calvinism Vs Arminian

    Who are the “YOU” that God is patient towards? Are they the same group as the “ANY” that God does not wish to perish? What is 2 Peter 3 talking about and trying to say? The BIG PICTURE? (Answering those questions for yourself should clarify the meaning of the verse in question as part of its...
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    Calvinism Vs Arminian

    2 Peter 3:9 is being ripped out of context to say something that it does not say. I am not immediately familiar with the context surrounding the other verses, but I know that you are using 2 Peter dishonestly.
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    Calvinism Vs Arminian

    Sorry, that is not what UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION is about at all. It means that God choose us to be saved [in the Golden Chain] for reasons known only to God and having nothing to do with any innate merit in us. We were not chosen for salvation because we deserved it. That is what the U is...
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    Calvinism Vs Arminian

    Actually I can, but I find it fascinating that you obsess over the least relevant point of refutation of the 5 Remonstrances of Arminianism. Ultimately, Jesus died for whomever GOD says He died for. We are powerless to add or subtract from such a decision. No one here is arguing for Universal...
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    Calvinism Vs Arminian

    No thank you. You requested a verse that stated a specific doctrine, so I provided what you requested. Shall we discuss whose sheep a shepherd protects, his sheep or the sheep (goats) of another owner’s flock? You have missed the whole analogy.
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    Calvinism Vs Arminian

    I could go through John 10 verse by verse and break it all down for you, and I would gladly invest the time and effort if I thought for a moment that you would bother reading it and responding with something other than a diatribe about “a few radical 16th Century” ... something or other...
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    Calvinism Vs Arminian

    Sorry, I have no desire to prove anything. I simply answered questions asked and pointed to where you had overlooked the answer to the question asked. The Bible says what it says. The doctrine is what it is. I am powerless to change either. I happen to believe what so called “TULIP” teaches...
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    Calvinism Vs Arminian

    “I lay down my life for the sheep.” (John 10:15) For whom did Jesus say He laid down his life?
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    Calvinism Vs Arminian

    “Jesus died for only the elect and no others." John 10:14-15 "God causes most to go to Hell." Matthew 7:13-23 "God's grace is irresistible." John 6:44-45 "One who has GENUINE faith at any point in their life will be saved no matter what." John 10:26-30
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