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Could you define the word EXAMPLE, because we must have VERY different definitions?
Here is an EXAMPLE of a baptism:
"35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and beginning from this Scripture he preached Jesus to him. 36 As they went along the road they came to some water; and the eunuch said, "Look...
[John 21:20-23 NASB] 20 Peter, turning around, saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following [them;] the one who also had leaned back on His bosom at the supper and said, "Lord, who is the one who betrays You?" 21 So Peter seeing him said to Jesus, "Lord, and what about this man?" 22 Jesus said to...
"If you confess with your mouth Jesus [as] Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation." [Rom 10:9-10]
Josiah
As a Physicist...
Josiah
Just a few small points of disagreement with your exact wording, if I may be a bit pedantic:
"SOME of the examples of baptism" is actually ALL "examples" of Baptism (of which there are VERY few). How many actual Baptisms do you find recorded as opposed to the vast numbers that are...
Pedantic.
One claims that the lifeless peak of Mount Everest was covered with water, and the other claims that the water only rose high enough to cover the local mountains ... but both claim a worldwide flood.
That is funny, but to be fair, the command when Jesus was born was for a baby boy to be circumcised at 7 or 8 days old (I forget the exact number). Since Jesus fulfilled the Law perfectly, he was likely circumcised right on schedule.
However, you are correct that Jesus did wait until he was an...
For me, the guiding verse for salvation is: "If you confess with your mouth Jesus [as] Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation."...
I am curious about something and would like to ask in a more positive manor.
It is obvious that a parent makes the decision to have an infant baptized (no one would argue that the Infant requested baptism him/her self).
So the question is ... At what age is that no longer appropriate?
If a...
The very scriptures that the Catholic Church sees as affirming the REAL union of the believer with Christ through Baptism, are the exact same scriptures that I would point to and say that the person did not LITERALLY and PHYSICALLY die, so the union is SPIRITUAL. However we would both agree...
I don’t know how to better explain it than I already did. You seem to have followed NONE of the argument that I crafted in defense of my belief and attempting to answer your question. I tried. :dunno:
MoreCoffee
I misunderstood your request. In many ways, what you ask is far easier.
This is unanswerable by either you or I. It calls for an explanation of how God is God and does only those things that God can do. If any human being could correctly answer this question (about the effective...
Josiah
This is half accurate. I may have stated what you claim (you would have to show me the post), or I may not have stated exactly what you “heard”. Most of the time I have simply chosen to not argue that “kai” means “before” because that is probably not a literal translation (otherwise...
Josiah
Acts 2:36-39, "Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified. Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” And Peter...
I am not the anointed spokesperson for all Credobaptists world wide ... not the Pope of Particular Baptist Churches. I state that only to reinforce that I am responsible for MY beliefs and not for the beliefs of anyone else, therefore my response to the above statement shall be construed as my...
You are not responding honestly to what I am posting. It is not very flattering on you personally.
Those two witnesses did not say a 4 year old “can have a conversion experience”, they testified that THEY had a conversion experience as a 4 year old. The first is an empty claim, identical to...
MoreCoffee
[Galatians 3:26-27 NLT] 26 For you are all children of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 And all who have been united with Christ in baptism have put on Christ, like putting on new clothes.
[Galatians 3:26-27 NLT] 26 For you are all children of God through faith in Christ Jesus...
This is nonsense and you know it.
There is already a topic on age restrictions on baptism in which I have already addressed the question of age.
This thread is about CREDO ... “I believe”.
See post #2 where I present the scripture you keep requesting, but have disobeyed for 400 years.
You don’t need to choose! BOTH have claimed that God called them to faith prior to their 5th Birthday.
Have at it. I welcome your expert testimony that it is impossible for a child to “believe” prior to their 5th Birthday. Nothing would surprise me more than such a declaration by an ECF...
Was there ever any real chance that the same old faces would not show up to repeat the same old demands for the same THREE arguments from the 16th Century Anabaptists?
I have ZERO expectations of any real progress on that front, but at least I get to address each of the three “demands” one at a...
Both R.C. Sproul and MennoSota have refuted you with their personal testimony. It now falls to you to explain why two people who oppose padeobaptism would lie and make such a false claim.