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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    974 - 12/17/22 John 10 covers a lot more than just faith. How about this: John 10:11 11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep NIV And, John 10:15 and I lay down my life for the sheep. NIV And, John 10:17 17 The reason my Father loves me is that I...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Not anywhere close, though, to all the false statements you have made about me.
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    I have some things to write about John 10, which by the way the vast majority of theologians call the Good Shepherd Discourse. No one I know of calls it the Faith Discourse. Did everyone catch what Jesus said in v.17? I'm thinking not, so permit to elaborate a little. John 10:17 17 The...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Yada, yada., yada. Provide definite proof texts. "May well..." doesn't cut it. Also, 1Tim 1-1-2 qualifies Paul's exhortation of "pray for all men". V.2 clearly limits who he had in mind.
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    But You didn't answer my question re John 10 and Mat 7:23: How can Jesus have a special relationship with his sheep (know them personally and intimately), even though they're still sinners, and yet not with the evildoers, especially since faith isn't in view in the Matthew passage? Or are you...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Well...it seems to me that my thoughts are aligned with God's since he has in his infinite wisdom provided numerous texts on doctrines that are quite specific and explicit. He has provided many specific and explicit statements in scripture that say he hates, despises, loathes or abhors sinners...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    quote]Doran: Now, I asked this question because John 10 teaches that Jesus knows all his sheep. He knows them so well that he not only knows each of them by name but knows them like he knows his Father! It certainly sounds like Jesus has a very deep, personal, intimate knowledge of his sheep...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Josiah, my friend, you should take to heart this proverb: Eccl 5:3, 7 3 As a dream comes when there are many cares, so the speech of a fool when there are many words . 7 Much dreaming and many words are meaningless. NIV You spend so many words with so little content. You waste more time and...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    I have asked you UABs several times if you think Jesus died for those he never knew. What I got for an answer was crickets. (What else is new?) Now, I asked this question because John 10 teaches that Jesus knows all his sheep. He knows them so well that he not only knows each of them by name...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    I think when Paul said pray for "all people", he meant pray meaningfully, i.e. biblically. You'd be hard-pressed to find such a trite, meaningless prayer in scriptures. You could start with the psalms. Any meathead can pray such nonsense. Here's another useless "prayer": Lord, I pray that...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    I have a few minutes, so let's jump into 1Timothy 2: 1 Tim 2:1-7 1 First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, 2 for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Greek language scholars would disagree with you. As would writers of scripture when their writings are understood in context. Also, the vast majority of words in the world have more than one meaning. Isn't it the height of naivete to narrow certain words or phrases down to just one...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Well then...You AGREE that Christ only died for those who the Father gave to him? And we know that the Father did not give him each and every person in the world. Therefore, Jesus could not have possibly died for each and very person in the world....UNLESS....UNLESS you postulate that He died...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    If I prove from scripture that Jesus isn't God because scripture doesn't reveal that, then I have falsified the antithesis, which would be that Jesus is God. It matters not a whit what else Jesus may be since the only object to the investigation was to prove that he isn't one particular entity...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Two things: Can you find any prayer in scripture that closely resembles this "universal" prayer for all? Secondly, it's a nice sounding, touchy feely, warm 'n' fuzzy prayer that doesn't say very much, for God's "goodness" has always been upon His creation (Mat 5:45). This particular...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Thanks for tacitly admitting that you really don't want to understand what any one particular passage is teaching, even though you use it as a proof text. (n) P.S. Christ died for all the Father has given to Him in eternity. (Oh yeah...that would include the OT saints, as well.) And just who...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    In other words, you have NO answers to legitimate theological questions to support your limited atonement falsehood. Your insipid theory cannot withstand the rigors of sound exegetical or close theological scrutiny. This, sir, proves the intellectual bankruptcy to your position and, even more...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Really? Run those examples buy us. You're going to have us believe that people actually pray for each and every person in the world according to each their needs? All of us, without exception, pray for specific people by name for their specific needs. We also pray for people we minister to...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Josiah, take a deep breath. If I prove that YOUR position is false, the antithetical proposition (unlimited atonement) would by default be proven to be true! A law of logic known as the Excluded Middle applies here! There is no third option to the question to the atonement question unless you...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    I seem to remember that one of your favorite "proof texts" for unlimited atonement (which, incidentally, I hold wholeheartedly to in the qualitative sense) :) is 1 Tim 2:6, right? I can't resist such low hanging fruit. ;) Question re 2:1 which reads: 1 Tim 2:1 First of all, then, I urge...
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