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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    You ought to stick with the text. Do not add to it (with Pharisees), nor subtract from it (by removing "the Jews"). Just let it say what it says. That is the Catholic way.
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    Your by-line is erroneous. The passage is addressed to "the Jews" not to Pharisees specifically. I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd giveth his life for his sheep. John 10:11 The Jews therefore came round about him and said to him: How long dost thou hold our souls in suspense? If thou...
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    Cheeseburgers do not make a person American any more than eating pork makes a person German. But, I do not eat fast foods, no cheeseburgers on the plate. But you, you evidence your origins with every post; the extreme individualism so present in your comments is so foreign to Jewish thought in...
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    I am from Australia, so I do not think like a 21st century American. You are from the USA, so you do not and cannot think as did a Jew of the first century because you are not a Jew - being a Christians as you say of yourself - and living in 21st century America. So how is one to read the...
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    Jesus died for the sins of the world

    Albion is right, if his remark is intended to say that many people do in point of fact pray for the whole world, each and every individual, though those who pray thus on earth do not know their names. Those in heaven, the angels and saints, pray for every person, and they may well know all of...
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    It was saint John who said "Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!", he was a bible character, he was no buffoon. But I think you intend to denigrate people alive today who say that the Lord died for the sin of the world, and not saint John. Which is worse, I wonder, to...
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    Even a Pharisee can come to believe in the Lord, some did so, as the scriptures testify. Saint Paul is one example that comes to mind. He said of himself But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a...
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    Religion and politics

    Strive to do good, pray for those in authority that they may do good, in everything seek to be pleasing to God, and be at peace with humanity as far as that is within your ability.
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    Try harder to keep on topic. You're too easily diverted by your own ideas. The thread is about Limited Vs Unlimited atonement in Protestantism. I am a Catholic. Catholics do not do Limited or Unlimited atonement. Catholics acknowledge the mystery of the birth from above. Catholics are content...
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    It is in fact explicit in scripture. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Matthew 28:19 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the...
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    Catholic teaching is that Catholics receive baptism from God acting through the Church (body of Christ). One receives baptism passively. One does not baptise one's self. This is in keeping with Christ's word to Nicodemus - Except a man be born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter the Kingdom...
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    It must be a constant labour for you to redefine words until they mean what you require.
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    It's contradictory isn't it? To assert that conversion is impossible and then tell your own story of conversion.
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    What of yourself, did you go from unbelief to belief at any time in your life?
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    For those who hold to TULIP, are any of you non-elect?

    You reject Irresistible grace and [the] Perseverance of the saints?
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    But do people change? Can someone who doesn't believe become a believer?
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    A Catholic perspective on Limited Atonement and Universal Atonement arguments.

    Is it possible, @1689Dave, that a person can become one of Christ's sheep from a state where he/she was not one of Christ's sheep before?
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    For those who hold to TULIP, are any of you non-elect?

    I know it is hard to be sure, and some say it is kind of tempting God to affirm one's assurance of one's own election, but I want to know if any of the Calvinists on CH thinks that they may not be among the elect?
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