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  1. Arsenios

    Baptism - Is it Innert or Effectual?

    Was Christ Baptized in water that ALL Righteousness be Fulfilled? A.
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    Can the Faith of Parents Save Their Children?

    Of COURSE it is! It proceeds from the Faith of the parents... Of course it does... :) We are used to a much higher infant and child survival rate in our sissified western culture... Look - The EOC understands fully that IF a child dies while having received Baptism through his or her...
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    THE CHURCH DID NOT START AT PENTECOST

    Jesus said they were fulfilling ALL Righteousness... Matthew 3:15-17 But Jesus answered him, “Let it be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Did I miss His mention of fulfilling the OT Covenant? Arsenios
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    THE CHURCH DID NOT START AT PENTECOST

    Christ said His Baptism by John the Baptist was for the sake that ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS BE FULFILLED... Remember? Arsenios
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    THE CHURCH DID NOT START AT PENTECOST

    Christ established the Norm when He had John Baptize Him in the Jordan... And it was John who prophesied that Christ will Baptize IN the Holy Spirit... Never that the Holy Spirit Baptizes... Arsenios
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    Baptism - Is it Innert or Effectual?

    :mug: Exactly the point, which the Eunuch well understood... "Disciple all the nations baptizing and instructing them..." is a Commandment directly from the Mouth of our Lord... Christ Himself established the NORM for Baptism - All the rest are for the economia of exceptions... He was the...
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    Baptism - Is it Innert or Effectual?

    I agree agreeably with your agreement with Ephesians... Jes' sayin'... Arsenios
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    THE CHURCH DID NOT START AT PENTECOST

    Ekonomia is the key - Remember the story of the kid who baptized his dying of thirst friend in the desert with sand when they were all about to die? When there cannot be a normal Baptism, one Baptizes as best as one is capable of Baptizing... There is a lot of water in one's own blood...
  9. Arsenios

    THE CHURCH DID NOT START AT PENTECOST

    The future tense of: "I shall be building (up) My Ekklesia..." can easily be understood in the sense of "increasing", rather than entering into "new construction of something not yet existent..." And indeed, it is the confession of Simon bar Jonah - eg that Jesus Christ is the Son of the Living...
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    THE CHURCH DID NOT START AT PENTECOST

    That is a false translation - The Greek term is not BY one Spirit, but IN one Spirit... A common problem with sola folks who cannot read the Greek text... A lot of martyrs were not Baptized in water... They were baptized in their own blood... In the Holy Spirit... In the Love of God...
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    Can the Faith of Parents Save Their Children?

    As a Christian, the parent saves his children by having them baptized into Christ... He then disciples the baptized children in the Faith of Christ... They live in the obedience of the Faith Christ discipled... They pray daily together... They fast together... They participate in Church...
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    Can the Faith of Parents Save Their Children?

    Yes - The parents did save their first-born children in Egypt... And these days, the prayers of pious parents for their children can save them as well... They can later throw away what they have received, mind you... Or they can confirm it in their own lives and flesh... Nice response...
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    Can the Faith of Parents Save Their Children?

    One can have and disciple the Faith of Christ TO one's children... And yes, the children still must make that Faith of Christ their own faith... Remember Paul's words concerning the priesthood... One must lead one's own children well in order to lead the (larger) flock... Arsenios
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    THE CHURCH DID NOT START AT PENTECOST

    \ And WHOM did Christ command to BAPTIZE??? Tell me one more time, Menno... How Christ commanded the Holy Spirit... To Baptize all the Nations into Christ... Show me that passage! Arsenios
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    THE CHURCH DID NOT START AT PENTECOST

    Why do you want to keep arguing with Paul? Eph 4:4-8 There is One Body, and One Spirit, Even as ye are called in One Hope of your calling; One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism, One God and Father of all, Who is above all, And through all, And in you all. But unto every one of us is given...
  16. Arsenios

    Can the Faith of Parents Save Their Children?

    Faith is used with two meanings: 1st - The Faith of Christ which He discipled to His disciples who later became Apostles... 2nd - The personal faith of disciples acquiring the Faith of Christ... So the parents' job is to disciple their children in the Faith of Christ through which they will...
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    Can the Faith of Parents Save Their Children?

    Faith is used iwith two meanings: 1st - The Faith of Christ which He discipled to His disciples who later became Apostles... 2nd - The personal faith of disciples acquiring the Faith of Christ... It is this second meaning which is normally misunderstood as the meaning of faith when Scripture...
  18. Arsenios

    THE CHURCH DID NOT START AT PENTECOST

    And WHO did Christ command to BAPTIZE??? Tell me one more time... How Christ commanded the Holy Spirit... To Baptize all the Nations into Christ... Show me that passage! Arsenios
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    Can the Faith of Parents Save Their Children?

    May she find her way, my Brother... Your prayers are the key... Arsenios
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    THE CHURCH DID NOT START AT PENTECOST

    Here - You can argue with Paul: Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. So read the above and tell me if Paul says we are Baptized into Christ... Then tell me if you believe the Bible... Then tell me if YOU believe we are Baptized into Christ...
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