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It begins, or at least it can begin, with God providing your repentance for you as training wheels keep a small child upright on his bike... And just as we slowly raise the training wheels higher and higher for the child until he no longer needs them... So also does God imperceptibly slowly...

There is a sense in which God "gives" and "grants" repentance... God gave repentance as the Call of God TO repentance - Which Israel did not obey... And to non-believers God can Call them to repentance, and when He does, their former disbelief can change, where they know as a result of that...

Your argument is with Christ: Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Thou that killest the prophets, And stonest them which are sent unto thee, How often would I have gathered thy children together, Even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, And ye would not! Christ wanted them...

Israel Herself did not come to Christ... And Christ tried... My God how He tried for them... "But"... As Christ said... "They would not..." And He could not gather them, as a hen her chicks, and take them under His Wing... Arsenios

"Of God the Gift", my Brother - "And not of works, lest any should boast..." The last is added because the works are many... Remember Paul telling us how those called to be Apostles are as appointed unto death? And how he desires that we imitate him? True enough - I was obeying Him while...

Did Israel embrace Christ? Christ tried all He was able to try for them... They crucified Him Menno... Granted, that failure was His Success! Welcome to another paradox of the Faith! Arsenios

My Brother, I cannot make myself holy AT ALL... God alone gets me into Heaven... He only asks me to turn to Him in repentance... And in this, I obey, and He is faithful... I live in constant gratitude to God... We are Saved by God THROUGH Faith... That Faith, which Christ discipled to His...

I must join Lamm on this one - It is not that Christ-God CANNOT... But He does not repent FOR you... He COULD just forgive everyone all their sins who do NOT repent... But He does NOT do so... In this fallen life, YOU have to choose... Not choosing IS a choice... Not choosing to repent is a...

The Bible tells us that God CALLS us to repentance... Nowhere does it say that repentance is a Gift FROM God... The Call of God is for US to turn from sin to Him... IF you answer the Call and obey the Gospel of Repentance... THEN God is faithful and will Save you... Arsenios .

Really? Christ suffered and died on the Cross for the sake of our being forgiven all our sins... When one is Baptized into Christ, ALL one's sins are forgiven... BUT... Heb 6:4-6 It is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made...

Jesus failed with them... He was unable to convert them... Free-will is like that... You suffer with it like they did... His rebuke of them failed, Menno... And they crucified Him... Arsenios

Nobody said hard work gets anyone to heaven... But obedience to Christ sure does... Disobedience to Christ does the opposite... God's Grace IS the Kingdom of Heaven... You must repent of your sins and turn from them to God... IF you do so, no matter how feebly, God will Save you... I am...

Disobedience to Christ is the pathway to hell, Menno... Obedience to Christ invites God's Grace... If you forsake obedience to Christ... t\ Thinking Grace alone... In the absence of such obedience... Will save you... And teach others as much... You will lead yourself and your followers...

I realize that the fruits of YOUR false doctrines are accusation and condemnation... Demons are all accusers... Arsenios

Obedience to Christ gets no one to hell, Menno... Claiming to have Christ's Righteousness is wild... Arsenios

Did Michael say that? Or is it just you, Lamm? Did Michael say he looks to himself for Peace? Or did he say he finds Peace in Obedience to God? You and Menno are getting kinda freaky here... Arsenios

Always good to see you sharing your Oh So Christian Sentiments, Menno... Your voice is getting gravelly and tinny these days... A man of accusations and condemnations to the core... Always quick to condemn those who disagree with you... Have you considered a career with ANTIFA??? Demons...

He is preaching obedience to Christ... Which you call "only works"... A harsh judgmentalism... Of the preaching of obedience to God... Christ lived His whole Life... In obedience to God... Michael preaches obedience to God... And you call him a false teacher... We live in a free country... You...

Thank-you... Arsenios

No confusion - We have used that formulaic for 2000 years describing Salvation... But not perfecting... So Christ is perfect, yes? And you are not... But God only sees you in Christ, yes? And He sees not imperfection which exist in you... I have never read this in the Bible... So this is the...