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Again, one-sided censoring much of the bible. How about your atonement ideas and salvation only for the Jews? What about the damned?

But, they are one-sided attempts to prove your point. So where is your universal atonement in the damnation of all but Jews?

They do not teach what you assume they do. Because all of the passages I posted limit the atonement to the elect. Besides, you need to read your verses as a first-century Jew would. "World" is about the promises God made to Abraham about saving Jews and Gentiles alike. Any Jew knew that...

How can your interpretation be true if Jesus told some Pharisees he did not die for them? Besides, Peter is comparing the false teachers with wicked Israel whom God bought out of Egypt. The Greek word for bought means "in the marketplace" except for a few places. Why not go with the context and...

Unless you consider all the scriptures, you are not playing with a full deck. :) BTW, did you know Jesus told some Pharisees he did not die for them? Read my post and you'll learn more than that.

Have you ever studied Pelagius and Augustine in their debate about salvation? Luther, Calvin, and the host of reformers were Augustinians. That's where Luther stood against free will in his book, the Bondage of the Will. It's one of the best books I've ever owned besides the Bible.

Did you ever think about the world where Jesus died for everyone and all are to be saved? Possibly he is speaking of the New World in the new heavens and earth. It's obvious this world is not saved, making Jesus (God) a failure.

John 10 shows that Jesus did not die for the Pharisees in his audience and that is why they did not believe. “I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.” John 10:11 (KJV 1900) “But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.” John 10:26...

Pelagius claimed that people save themselves. That Christ saved no one. This is no different than Universal Atonement else all would be saved. Paul said: “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Romans 5:9 (KJV 1900) “Take heed therefore unto...

Little Shop of Horrors. Steve Martin and Bill Murray about killed me in the dentist scene. I was laughing so hard I could not breathe. I actually got scared, paralyzed with laughter.

Since it's now just my wife and me, we no longer have a tree. But our best trees were natural with an electric train circling among the presents. One year the tree began leaning so we did a selfy in our PJs and messy hair, with us leaning too and my wife holding a hot water bottle on her hip.

Greek words have a wide area of meaning. The idea is to pick the definition that fits best. In this case, the basic non-redemptive definition is best. Peter is comparing them to OT Israel whom God obviously bought in a non-redemptive sense. If the false teachers were bought in a redemptive...

ἀγοράζω.* From ἀγορά, “market,” this means “to buy,” and is often used in the NT in relation to commercial life. Büchsel, F. (1964–). ἁγοράζω, ἐξαγοράζω. In G. Kittel, G. W. Bromiley, & G. Friedrich (Eds.), Theological dictionary of the New Testament (electronic ed., Vol. 1, p. 125). Eerdmans...

Remember, the Jews are not a race. They are a religion. The gospel centered on the promise to Abraham. From then on it became the property of Israel until Christ abolished unbelieving physical Israel leaving only believers. Jesus said: “Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for...

If you were a first-century Jew. You would know salvation was only for the Jews. So when they heard that is was now for the whole world, they would know that gentiles were now savable. But just as most perished in Israel, most perish in the world also. Revelation 5:9 9 And they sang a new...

Please see Post #2 above to begin. Regeneration by the Holy Spirit is necessary for us to have true faith, and thereby to be saved. The gift of the Holy Spirit to regenerate and sanctify is actually given to all whom Christ died for. John 3:3 “Jesus answered and said to him, Most assuredly, I...

Outline and Proofs from the Bible The overwhelming evidence from Scripture is that Christ came to save a very definite number of people (those given to him by the Father). In this regard, see the following texts: Matt. 1:21 “And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name Jesus...

I realize you believe in what you say and welcome your replies. I used to believe like most and had a rough time with the Arminian eternal security bunch. But the Lord miraculously opened my eyes when I heard an accredited ThD seminary professor teaching against Limited Atonement. This was the...

Thanks, Prism for your interest in this. Notice that Jesus told the Pharisees the reason they could not believe is that he didn't die for them. Jesus said: “I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.” John 10:11 (KJV 1900) Jesus then says: “But ye believe not...

This is a NON-DEBATE section. I wish I would have posted it in a debate section so we could compare notes. Any suggestions?