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  1. Lanman87

    What if Modern Christianity is just the other end of the telephone?

    I do believe that there has been a lot of accretion in church history. Also, if you read the church fathers, there was a lot of different perspectives on different issues and then you can trace new teachings and practices that emerged in the church during the midieval period. . Since the...
  2. Lanman87

    "Apocrypha" & The Gospel: Comparison Study #01

    I would say it depends upon how you define believers. If you say believers are anyone who says they believe in God then you are probably right. If you define believers as people who profess belief in Christ and regularly attend church then I would say that a large percentage of believers read...
  3. Lanman87

    Comparing Romans 2:13 and Romans 3:20

    Is keeping the 10 Commandments a "work of the law"? I would say it is. The Jewish law is both a bunch of "thou shall not" (steal, kill, adultery, don't eat unclean foods...) and thou shalts (remember the passover, circumcise boys, take care of your family....) To be declared righteous by...
  4. Lanman87

    "Apocrypha" & The Gospel: Comparison Study #01

    I wouldn't be opposed to it provided it had a modern update to the preface of the Glossia Ordinara (I've said that before in this thread). Just as a side not I was curious so I went to Christianbook.com (which is where I start when shopping for Christian material) and put in Bible with...
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    "Apocrypha" & The Gospel: Comparison Study #01

    That actually makes more sense. However, it doesn't change the fact that the fact Christ would be called the Son of God, would be righteous, would Judge the Jews (and be inconvient for the wicked) and all the world, would be beaten and insulted, and would die a horrible death were already...
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    "Apocrypha" & The Gospel: Comparison Study #01

    Another thought. Wisdom seems to be saying the reason for the beating and torture is to find out if this person is really the Son of God Let us see if his words are true, and let us test what will happen at the end of his life; for if the righteous man is God's son, he will help him, and will...
  7. Lanman87

    "Apocrypha" & The Gospel: Comparison Study #01

    A couple of thoughts: First, The fact He will be condemned to a shameful death is prevalent in the Old Testament. All you have to do is read Isaiah 52 and 53 to get a picture of His chastisement, suffering, and death As many were astonished at you— his appearance was so marred, beyond...
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    "Apocrypha" & The Gospel: Comparison Study #01

    And He will glorify the pious on the throne of the eternal Kingdom, He who liberates the captives, restores sight to the blind, straightens the b[ent] And f[or] ever I will clea[ve to the h]opeful and in His mercy … And the fr[uit …] will not be delayed for anyone and the Lord will accomplish...
  9. Lanman87

    "Apocrypha" & The Gospel: Comparison Study #01

    The person or persons who wrote the Book of Wisdom had access to the Hebrew Old Testament books. I'm sure they sat around the fire and pondered the coming messiah and read and re-read the The Psalms, Jeremiah, Samuel, Ezekiel, and all the prophets. Everything from Wisdom in this passage can...
  10. Lanman87

    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    That is debatable. I would say that the Greek Jews who translated the LXX added the books to their "Bible" and the Jews in Palestine who were fluent in Hebrew took them back out. They corrected the error of the Greek translators, who may or may not have included them as "Scripture".
  11. Lanman87

    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    I agree. Maccabees was a Jewish History book that Jews would be familiar with. If you were a Hellenist Jew you probably thought it was scripture. If you were a Palestinian Jew, probably not. Hebrews was written to Jewish converts in the 1st Century. The Old Testament records Jewish...
  12. Lanman87

    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    He was giving a history of people of faith, not a history Old Testament scriptures. Not every faithful person was recorded in Scriptures and there were faithful people after the scriptures were written. So yes, I honestly think that is what he is doing. You are reading your "context" into...
  13. Lanman87

    "Apocrypha" & The Gospel: Comparison Study #01

    In the inter-testament period they were looking for the Messiah and were well aware of the Prophecies in the Old Testament. It is no wonder we find New Testament allusions in the inter-testament writings. They were longing for the Messiah and had a basic understanding of prophecy from the Old...
  14. Lanman87

    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    Here are a couple of interesting videos on the Topic of the canon. They are part of a series of interviews by Houston Baptist University Professor (who got into trouble with Al Molher at Southern Seminary) with Lee Martin McDonald, who has written several books about the Canon of Scripture...
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    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    The Book of Macabees was well known by the Early church. It was considered a historical book by the Jews that accurately related the Maccabean revolt. Whoever wrote Hebrews was writing to Jewish Christians. It is therefore logical for the writer of Hebrews to invoke Jewish History and...
  16. Lanman87

    Comparing Romans 2:13 and Romans 3:20

    I'm going to make an assumption that he is trying to show that Zacharias was made righteous by keeping the law. However, there is comma between the first part of the verse And they were both righteous before God and the second part, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord...
  17. Lanman87

    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    Many is not the same as all. It was Trent that firmly set the canon for the Catholic church. Tent was response to the reformation. If there had been no reformation then there would still be two "threads" within the Catholic church.
  18. Lanman87

    Comparing Romans 2:13 and Romans 3:20

    13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin. I've been...
  19. Lanman87

    A P O C R Y P H A : Included in every Holy Bible from the 4th century AD to the 19th Century AD

    No, that was Pope Gregory XIII in 1582 Gregory the Great is Pope Gregory I in the 6th Century. Gregorian Chant is named after him.
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