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The percentages are based on recommended daily amounts, although for some items listed the daily amount is a minimum and for others it's a maximum. They are based on a theoretical person consuming (I think) 2000 calories per day and with theoretically perfectly normal requirements for nutrients...

There's no need for a clown, but is it enough to write off a church? There's no need for musical instruments because people can sing without instruments easily enough. I'm curious to understand where different people draw the line between not needed and not acceptable.

I figure it's easier to fit a stairlift than relocate, although if/when we can't cope with stairs then moving to a single-storey house becomes a far more attractive proposition. At that point I'm unlikely to need space for lots of big heavy power tools, so losing the basement isn't necessarily...

I wonder whether catering to every different faith (particularly if different denominations within religions wanted to be considered "different") would mean that official meetings would take so much time in prayer at the start that they'd run out of time to do any actual meeting. ... which, on...

OK, that sounds better. I wasn't sure if that was what you were trying to say or if I'd missed your point. We usually do a children's lesson much like that at our church, although my previous church did a periodic "all age service" where the kids didn't go out to their groups and the service...

I don't have a problem with schools teaching children at least the basics of different religions. It seems to me a lot of problems are caused to people simply not understanding what other faiths believe and so assuming they believe something else. Hence you get the ideas that Muslims are just...

I can see the argument for dignified, but are you saying that somber or stuffy is a desirable attribute of a church service? If the church doesn't have a specific "children's sermon" but every once in a while they have a service that focuses more on the children than the adults, would that...

Why would you have such a strong opposition to a clown?

Not yet, hopefully I've got several decades before stairs become a problem. Which is just as well, given how many of them there are in my house.

So if you'd watched a few live streams of services and thought everything was good, then went to the church for real and found a clown, you wouldn't be interested in knowing why they were using a clown? If the church hosted a service aimed at the children once every three months and that...

Run a 2-hour marathon. In fairness I never tried to run a marathon but based on the time it takes me to run lesser distances I can say with absolute confidence that a 2-hour marathon isn't happening, unless the route includes some kind of space-time wormhole.

If you did see a clown in the pulpit would you write off the church completely, or look to figure out why they might have done it? Of course if you watched a dozen live streams and didn't see any clowns that wouldn't assure you that the church would never put a clown in the pulpit, right?

I think we partly agree on this one. The first and last posts you quoted shifted from live streaming to checking out web sites. I don't dispute that having a web site lets you check out the basics of a church to see if it will probably be worth visiting. If you're into traditional liturgical...

I wasn't talking about looking at web sites, I was responding to Lamb's comment about watching live-streamed services. Yes, if there are 100 churches within a five mile radius it would take two years to visit each church for one single Sunday each. But the chances are someone looking for a...

You can check out churches ahead of time but you can only gain so much insight from watching things on a screen. You can only gain so much from even attending a church a couple of times.

Or the "modern person" (whatever that means) could just go to the church and find out what it's actually like, rather than treating it as just another consumer product.

Probably not. I don't really want some external group telling me what color curtains I'm allowed to have and fining me because my grass is 1/10" too tall. I also don't want any more groups in my life that tell me what services they are going to provide and how much I have to pay for them, even...

Mass produced school food is nutritionally trash. Is anyone surprised by this?

Not usually. If we're visiting friends and they attend a church we're inclined to trust we may all go on a Sunday morning. If we're visiting an area where we don't know the churches we don't feel the need to visit a new church, when the chances are very low of us ever going back there because...

Not for many years. I can't remember how much it cost. It was more than I was thrilled about paying, but at the time it was worth it because we had enough other stuff going on it was easier to just let someone else worry about cutting grass. Once the dust settled we bought our own mower and have...