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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    You say stay away from Derek Prince. I'm like he has great teachings. I'm like stay away from Calvin. You're like he has good preachings. You may be right. Jesus even said they should listen to the pharisees, but not do as they do and watch the leaven. A church I used to go to, that guy said we...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Yes that's also evil. Maybe all isms are bad. But for example once saved always saved. Charismatics, evangelicals, loads of ppl believe that. And yes I agree with you about eternal security for ppl who walk well, like the Phillippians, but this doctrin can kill people, when the wrong ones think...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    He assasinated Servettus and that other guy who tried to warn him. I hoped he would just have said that he was sorry or wrong, but no. I also read that he was friendly and shy when he was young, but later he was a tyrant. There's nothing wrong with calvinists, but his teachings are used by...
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    No look at Romans 8. It's the other way around. Who He proginōskō G4267 - proginōskō - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv) Same word used in 2Pe 3:17 - Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, G4267 beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your...
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    Oh yes. That's as clear as can be. First He knows who they are and then He gives em a destiny. 29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He...
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    Collective Guilt

    But otherwise they don't ask for help. I went to a couple from a church in Canada once for counselling and had to fill in a whole list with questions, but it said that if you told them about illegal stuff that had happened, they were obliged to tell the police. In the case of that daughter, she...
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    Advice about my wife

    Sounds to me like you think your problems are not that bad, but she thinks they're gigantic. I saw some spoiled tiktok girl on bored panda with loads of demands. Her boyfriend had to text her every morning and he had to compliment her or else mrs would hold a grudge and she said: you ask for a...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    Catholics killed protestants too. I was reading a bit about it yesterday. My goodness. What a horrible mess. You can't just throw everything they said away, but my country is calvinistic from origin and I didn't know he was that bad. Corrie ten Boom helped Dutch ppl who were on their death bed...
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    Maybe you're right. God wanted to make people like Himself, perfect and it's maybe not possible without suffering. How can you expect Adam, who had maybe just known God for a few weeks, to be immediately like Jesus and protect Eve. Hey Eve, watch out. Don't go outside alone. Don't talk to...
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    Could be, but I'm not sure, cause in heaven he who overcomes may eat from the tree of Life. First you have to die with Christ, overcome sin and temptation and then you may eat from the tree and become like God, who will be all in all. But then they had no sin. They could simply say not today...
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    Your grandparents house

    My grandma lived in an apartment and she had a machine to grind coffee beans by hand and a clock that would tick and make noise every hour. She played cards with the neighbours. I asked her why all her neighbours were old except for one man. He was 20. The man then loved me and I could come...
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    For you So He had to die to save us from sin and Adam didn't have no choice but to sin. God only knew that he would go sin. Had Adam been like 2/3 of the angels and Eve too and all of their offspring, then Jesus wouldn't have had to die. But in a way I think he had to sin, not because God wanted...
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    That Jesus had to die. The Bible doesn't say what God's thought process was though. I assume something like: Lets make man. He will sin. Lets give him a body and die for his sins to get him back. Instead of: I want to die and be a Savior, so lets create Adam and force him to sin.
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    Yes he was gonna sin, but knowing something doesn't make him do it. Ah you mean like Judas. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is [g]lost except the son of [h]perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. In this case I see Jesus picks Judas, although He knows who he is...
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    Before the foundation of the world, because He knew man would sin. He didn't bother dying for fallen angels, but made man with a body, that could die, so we could be saved. If Adam had not sinned, he would have been perfected by simply obeying and eating from the tree of life. He didn't have to...
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    Who is "him that justifieth the ungodly"?

    What about the Old Testament saints? What about Adam and Eve? They talked with God. They didn't leave Him after they sinned. They taught their sons to listen to God. Only because Jesus would die and rise later? It hadn't even happened yet. The O.T. saints couldn't get a new spirit and die with...
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    Original Sin

    I voted 'We are all born with a sin nature, but aren't guilty of sin until we commit actual sin', but I half believe the first one. I'm not guilty of Adam's sin and the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, but before Jesus came an innocent child, that wasn't even able to sin, would...
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    Predestination Romans 9 Potter and clay

    Why not: God knew he would sin and that He would save him, so Christ was slain before the foundation of the earth? Now it sounds like God wanted him to sin.
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    Better a little burnt

    Pizza cheese oh and Swiss cheesefondue. We'd fight over the brown rests.
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    Faith

    Or us means us, we christians.
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