Companies pull ADs

[Brighten04]

OK what do you think? Agree, disagree, indifferent?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNMTP_e9w34

 

[psalms 91]

Doubt it really makes any difference in the long run, if he has viewers and lots of them then he will survive and advertisers will be there

 

[MoreCoffee]

Bill O'Reilly makes very obnoxious public comments so it is no surprise that companies do not what their product associated with those obnoxious comments.

 

[Josiah]

POLITICALLY and in many other ways, Bill O'Reilly is one awesome dude.....

Whether he did wrong or not, I have NO WAY to know (nor any of those companies). But we do have a LONG standing legal tradition in all civilized countries: one is innocent until proven guilty. As one who accepts the Rule of Law, I must accept that principle. Too bad those companies think that rubric only applies to one corporation: self.


- Josiah

 

[psalms 91]

Companies have to look at perception since that can hurt the brand

 

[Tigger]

Advertisers are fickle, he and the ladies deserve their day in court guilty or not.

 

[Brighten04]

Advertisers are fickle, he and the ladies deserve their day in court guilty or not.

I have to agree with you here. But, the payout of 13million dollars included hush money. So there will not be a court date.

 

[Tigger]

I have to agree with you here. But, the payout of 13million dollars included hush money. So there will not be a court date.

Exactly and this time it might cost him his number one news cable ratings. Personally for 'me' its happened too may times to him to be just circumstantial. Where there's smoke there's fire. So if he wants any respect from me he'll stand and fight because we all know he can get the best lawyers.

 

[Brighten04]

Exactly and this time it might cost him his number one news cable ratings. Personally for 'me' its happened too may times to him to be just circumstantial. Where there's smoke there's fire. So if he wants any respect from me he'll stand and fight because we all know he can get the best lawyers.

He can get the best lawyers, I agree. But why throw gas on a burning fire? The 13 million dollars was a firehose imho.

 

[Stravinsk]

OK what do you think? Agree, disagree, indifferent?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNMTP_e9w34

I didn't watch that video because it's not available in Australia and I couldn't be bothered to hook up a proxy. So I watched another and got the general gist of the story.

I can't say I agree or disagree. It's just an allegation towards a wealthy man by a woman. Maybe it's true, and maybe it isn't. It isn't as if selfish or butt-hurt women have never made up bs and slandered someone for their own selfish reasons or out of their own delusions. Then again, maybe it's true.

I think that if it's crap and there's no evidence, O'Reilly should sue the women on libel charges.

 

[Brighten04]

I think that if it's crap and there's no evidence, O'Reilly should sue the women on libel charges.

Fat chance of that. The 13 million dollars was for everybody to shut up, including O'Reilly. I think they said it was about 5 women involved.

 

[Josiah]

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Alright.... the larger issue here....


"Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely."


We see this among those who are (or feel they are) POWERFUL because of their wealth, their fame, their control, their position/job. We see it among businessmen, entertainers, politicians, even clergymen and denominations. We can see it among school teachers, scout leaders, youth ministers. Even among physicians and psychologists. Even parents.


People realize their POWER/CONTROL is so great they frankly are going to get away with it. AND people MAY even willingly submit and not even report it. And even if they do, they have the POWER to shut them up or control the process to get away scot free. They do because they can. Their POWER empowers it.


Think Bill Clinton. Think Bill Cosby. Think all those Catholic priests doing disgusting, horrible things to innocent little Catholic boys. SADLY, tragically, horribly, there are SO many examples. Those so powerful they think they can get away with it.... and often they are right. And I suspect every one that gets caught, there are MANY who did not. Bosses at work..... medical doctors..... teachers..... boy scout leaders.... ministers/youth workers.... as well as the bigger profile persons known to all. It can go all the way to the top (read about Pope Alexander VI for just one example). They DO because they CAN. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.


I don't know about Bill O'Reilly or Bill Crosby.... and as I posted earlier, I hold to the Rule of Law and thus a person is innocent until proven guilty. I reject a person is guilty IF it is opinioned that they are; I think facts matter rather than accusations and feelings. On the other hand, those with great power have great opportunity - and I think men (and women) of low character likely will abuse others with it; lording it over them (at times, with the victim willingly cooperating simply to be associated with the rich/famous/powerful - think Monica Lewinski). It's disgusting.


And yes.... there are those who will CLAIM horrible things BECAUSE of the deep pockets these people have. These are people who cannot afford the defaming and will pay richly to avoid it - and there are disgusting, horrible people who will attempt to destroy character in hopes of making themselves more powerful. Their ACCUSATION gives them enormous power - power to destroy. And if the accusation is sexual in nature, they are virtually GUARENTEED to get lots of publicity, lots of attention, lots of power. It's disgusting.



My half cent.


- Josiah

 

[Brighten04]

Yes it is very disgusting. But it is the state of our fallen world. Sad.

 

[Tigger]

Famous last words.

 

[Brighten04]

Famous last words.

Indeed!