Ever hear of an eruv?

[Lamb]

An eruv is a ritual enclosure that some Jewish communities, and especially Orthodox Jewish communities, constructed in their neighborhoods as a way to permit Jewish residents or visitors to carry certain objects outside their own homes on Sabbath and Yom Kippur. An eruv accomplishes this by integrating a number of private and public properties into one larger private domain, thereby avoiding restrictions on carrying objects from the private to the public domain on Sabbath and holidays. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eruv

Another site stated this: To sum it up, an eruv is a religious rule foisted upon the public and strung across public property so that religious individuals can trick their god into thinking they are not violating one of his rules. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/freeth...-using-magical-wires-to-trick-the-jewish-god/

 

[Rens]

smart

 

[user1234]

smart

:xD: :rofl3: :first::cheer2: :xD:

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

One word and it's the funniest post I've seen yet !!!
(gee, ya think it's working?)
God bless you, Rens !!!

 

[MoreCoffee]

Some aspects of the ultra-orthodox-Jewish-community's rules are hilarious to me.

 

[user1234]

Some aspects of the ultra-orthodox-Jewish-community's rules are hilarious to me.

There are religious practices all over the world that seem pretty ridiculous, many of which are right within the 'professing christian religion' .

But getting beyond any apparant silliness, alot of these 'practices' can range from minor distractions, to downright dangerous deceptions, lies, and evil.
Not really something to laugh at.

What Rens said about the orthodox building structures being 'smart' was really funny, I loved that, like a compliment on their inventiveness, I'm still laffing lol :=D: . God bless Rens !!!

Unfortunately the reality of some religious people's attempts to appease God, or add in all kinds of loopholes, instead of simply receiving God's gift of salvation by grace through faith in Jesus alone is really kind of sad. Understandable in some ways, but still a bit sad.

God loves us. Jesus died and rose for us. God's not out to get us, (except in a good way), or force us into a bunch of religious rituals or rules to make Him happy.
It's not our religion He wants, it's our relationship with Him and each other He's interested in, and He paid with His own blood to have it.

 

[tango]

This reminds me very much of a story a lawyer in the US told me about an Amish man who wanted to deed a small patch of land to his friend. The patch of land in question was barely a 10 foot square, so he asked whether it would be better to just have an informal understanding between them. The Amish man insisted he wanted a formal deed drawn up and for the land to be legally transferred to his friend, and was willing to pay the legal costs associated (which were more than the value of the land).

Once the deed was executed a small shed was erected on the land with a telephone installed in it. The telephone was in the Amish man's name, he paid the bills and assumed all responsibility for it. But the crucial issue for him - the phone was not on his land.

 

[user1234]

This reminds me very much of a story a lawyer in the US told me about an Amish man who wanted to deed a small patch of land to his friend. The patch of land in question was barely a 10 foot square, so he asked whether it would be better to just have an informal understanding between them. The Amish man insisted he wanted a formal deed drawn up and for the land to be legally transferred to his friend, and was willing to pay the legal costs associated (which were more than the value of the land).

Once the deed was executed a small shed was erected on the land with a telephone installed in it. The telephone was in the Amish man's name, he paid the bills and assumed all responsibility for it. But the crucial issue for him - the phone was not on his land.

Okay. But without any re-quotes, how can we know what the This is that reminds you of that story. I'm not getting any relevant analogy or the point of the story. Can you elaborate for us? Thx.

 

[Lamb]

I live near Amish and what Tango is saying is that it's the same legalistic bypass as in the OP. They want to hold up their end of the deal but they'll stretch the limits of what exactly that deal includes.

 

[user1234]

I live near Amish and what Tango is saying is that it's the same legalistic bypass as in the OP. They want to hold up their end of the deal but they'll stretch the limits of what exactly that deal includes.

Okay thx . I live not too far from Amish too. That was kind of a long way around the barn lol.
So the THIS he was referring to was the OP and not a subsequent post?

 

[Lamb]

Okay thx . I live not too far from Amish too. That was kind of a long way around the barn lol.
So the THIS he was referring to was the OP and not a subsequent post?

Most likely?

Do you see a lot of Amish with cell phones? The kids are hilarious as they drive down the road in their buggies and texting!

 

[Stravinsk]

Not heard of it till now.

I'm not aware of any passage in Torah that prohibits carrying an object outside of one's home as a violation that is considered "work".

Although the violations are fairly well spelled out and simple - some Jews seem to have a heavy reliance on literature outside of Torah to define it and regulate it. Ie: Talmud, Mishna.

 

[tango]

Not heard of it till now.

I'm not aware of any passage in Torah that prohibits carrying an object outside of one's home as a violation that is considered "work".

Although the violations are fairly well spelled out and simple - some Jews seem to have a heavy reliance on literature outside of Torah to define it and regulate it. Ie: Talmud, Mishna.

To a large extent it seems that rabbinical decrees play a surprisingly large part in how modern day Jews interpret the Law.

The Old Testament Law includes the prohibition "You shall not boil a young goat in its mother's milk." (Exo 23:19, Exo 34:26, Deu 14:21) but somehow that has been developed to the point that eating meat and dairy products in the same meal is prohibited. A fairly orthodox Jewish friend of mine says that something is considered to be a different meal after (I think) 2 hours have elapsed. I find it quite remarkable to see how the idea of boiling a goat in its mother's milk has evolved to not putting a slice of cheese on an otherwise kosher burger, or not having a bowl of ice cream half an hour after eating a steak.

 

[tango]

Okay. But without any re-quotes, how can we know what the This is that reminds you of that story. I'm not getting any relevant analogy or the point of the story. Can you elaborate for us? Thx.

The original post about the eruv, it reminded me of the way the Amish appear to live under some really very restrictive requirements but find ways to circumvent them. I don't quite see the point of it myself, I figure it makes more sense to either live it or not live it.

 

[tango]

Most likely?

Do you see a lot of Amish with cell phones? The kids are hilarious as they drive down the road in their buggies and texting!

A friend of mine described hearing what sounded like furious horse riding outside his house and then saw the local Amish teenagers were having drag races in their buggies...

 

[user1234]

Most likely?

Do you see a lot of Amish with cell phones? The kids are hilarious as they drive down the road in their buggies and texting!

The original post about the eruv, it reminded me of the way the Amish appear to live under some really very restrictive requirements but find ways to circumvent them. I don't quite see the point of it myself, I figure it makes more sense to either live it or not live it.

A friend of mine described hearing what sounded like furious horse riding outside his house and then saw the local Amish teenagers were having drag races in their buggies...

It seems something needs to be done about these wild gangs of Amish taking over our streets and causing a ruckus!
Can't the authorities put hay bumps on the road or something?
It's getting to where a guy no longer feels safe sitting on his porch swing smoking a corncob pipe and knitting a bonnet!

 

[Lamb]

The Amish have some bad characters in their groups as well! A friend at work told me some stories about some of our neighbors There is no perfect religious group in reality!

 

[Stravinsk]

To a large extent it seems that rabbinical decrees play a surprisingly large part in how modern day Jews interpret the Law.

The Old Testament Law includes the prohibition "You shall not boil a young goat in its mother's milk." (Exo 23:19, Exo 34:26, Deu 14:21) but somehow that has been developed to the point that eating meat and dairy products in the same meal is prohibited. A fairly orthodox Jewish friend of mine says that something is considered to be a different meal after (I think) 2 hours have elapsed. I find it quite remarkable to see how the idea of boiling a goat in its mother's milk has evolved to not putting a slice of cheese on an otherwise kosher burger, or not having a bowl of ice cream half an hour after eating a steak.

You can thank the Rabbis for that. Hee hee.