We have kept the feast.

[MoreCoffee]

Above all else, it is being said that there is fornication among you, even fornication of a such kind that is not among the Gentiles, so that someone would have the wife of his father. And yet you are inflated, and you have not instead been grieved, so that he who has done this thing would be taken away from your midst. Certainly, though absent in body, I am present in spirit. Thus, I have already judged, as if I were present, him who has done this. In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, you have been gathered together with my spirit, in the power of our Lord Jesus, to hand over such a one as this to Satan, for the destruction of the flesh, so that the spirit may be saved in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

It is not good for you to glory. Do you not know that a little leaven corrupts the entire mass? Purge the old leaven, so that you may become the new bread, for you are unleavened. For Christ, our Passover, has now been immolated. And so, let us feast, not with the old leaven, not with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

As I have written to you in an epistle: "Do not associate with fornicators," certainly not with the fornicators of this world, nor with the greedy, nor with robbers, nor with the servants of idolatry. Otherwise, you ought to depart from this world. But now I have written to you: do not associate with anyone who is called a brother and yet is a fornicator, or greedy, or a servant of idolatry, or a slanderer, or inebriated, or a robber. With such a one as this, do not even take food. For what have I to do with judging those who are outside? But do not even you yourselves judge those who are inside? For those who are outside, God will judge. But send this evil person away from yourselves. [SUP]1 Corinthians 5:1-13[/SUP]

We have kept the feast, our Passover is sacrificed, so let's not try to keep any more feasts using the old ceremonies and the old sacrifices let's proceed in sincerity and truth.

That's the message we have in the new testament. Let's not try to return to the Law and its sacrifices and its ceremonies.

 

[Pedrito]

In Post #1 on Page 1, MoreCoffee stated:

We have kept the feast, our Passover is sacrificed, so let's not try to keep any more feasts using the old ceremonies and the old sacrifices let's proceed in sincerity and truth.

That's the message we have in the new testament. Let's not try to return to the Law and its sacrifices and its ceremonies.

The Greek word ἑορτάζω translated “let us feast” in 1 Corinthians 5:8 as quoted in Post #1, actually means “to keep a feast day, celebrate a feast, observe a festival”.

So Pedrito asks:
- What is the feast to which Paul was referring?
- Could it have been the new annual commemoration commanded by Jesus, as recorded by Paul in 1 Corinthians 11:24,25,26 (the same letter)?*
- What is the feast that we have kept?

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*1 Corinthians 11:24,25,26 emphasis added and [[clarification inserted]]:
“23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread [[the special passover matzo bread that they were eating]]:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it [[the special passover wine that they were drinking]], in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.”

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What feast should we be observing?

 

[psalms 91]

Wow are you in for a surprise when the millenial occurs and beyond, it is commanded that we keep Passover forever and it will be celebrated in the millenial as that is in scripture as is keeping the feast forever. You can ignore it or work around it but it is there and nothing will change that

 

[MoreCoffee]

Christ, our Passover, has now been immolated. And so, let us feast, not with the old leaven, not with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. [SUP]1Cor 5:8[/SUP] There's no more sacrifice for sins [SUP]Heb 10:26[/SUP]; it is impossible for sins to be taken away by the blood of oxen and goats [SUP]Heb 10:4[/SUP] - who has so fascinated you that you would not obey the truth, even though Jesus Christ has been presented before your eyes, crucified among you? [SUP]Gal 3:1[/SUP] does he who distributes the Spirit to you, and who works miracles among you, act by the works of the law, or by the hearing of the faith? [SUP]Gal 3:5[/SUP] Those who are of faith, these are the sons of Abraham. Thus Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, foretold to Abraham: "All nations shall be blessed in you." And so, those who are of faith shall be blessed with faithful Abraham. [SUP]Gal 3:7-9[/SUP]

It is best not to wish for the return of animal sacrifices and the Law for the reasons given above.

 

[Rens]

Wow are you in for a surprise when the millenial occurs and beyond, it is commanded that we keep Passover forever and it will be celebrated in the millenial as that is in scripture as is keeping the feast forever. You can ignore it or work around it but it is there and nothing will change that

I don't think you can take that as returning to the old, just remember what Jesus did. It also says the wolf or lion dont even know will lay next to the lamb and a kid will go to a snake so that sounds more like a nice vegetarian bunch as before the fall.
although hmm if I read the context that may not be literal either

The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb,
The leopard shall lie down with the young goat,
The calf and the young lion and the fatling together;
And a little child shall lead them.
7 The cow and the bear shall graze;
Their young ones shall lie down together;
And the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8 The nursing child shall play by the cobra’s hole,
And the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper’s den.
9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain,
For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord
As the waters cover the sea.

 

[psalms 91]

I don't think you can take that as returning to the old, just remember what Jesus did. It also says the wolf or lion dont even know will lay next to the lamb and a kid will go to a snake so that sounds more like a nice vegetarian bunch as before the fall.
although hmm if I read the context that may not be literal either

The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb,
The leopard shall lie down with the young goat,
The calf and the young lion and the fatling together;
And a little child shall lead them.
7 The cow and the bear shall graze;
Their young ones shall lie down together;
And the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8 The nursing child shall play by the cobra’s hole,
And the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper’s den.
9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain,
For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord
As the waters cover the sea.

Ah, but tht is very literal and it is not returning yo yhee old but rather a remembrance of what Jesys did

 

[Lamb]

Wow are you in for a surprise when the millenial occurs and beyond, it is commanded that we keep Passover forever it will be celebrated in the millenial as that is in scripture as is keeping the feast forever. You can ignore it or work around it but it is there and nothing will change that

The Lord's Supper is the new Passover. Do you slaughter a lamb and brush the blood on your doorpost? There was a reason the Jews did that and Jesus is the fulfillment of that Passover and has established Holy Communion with Him.

 

[Rens]

I don't know about the Millennial. I absolutely don't understand those texts. My ex always said: that's so far away, no use to preach about it lol.
But in Revelations it says there will be no more death and the creation will be saved from the perishable my goodness how do you translate that, so no, lambs won't be killed always. At least after the Millennium all we get is soy beans lol.

 

[MoreCoffee]

I don't know about the Millennial. I absolutely don't understand those texts. My ex always said: that's so far away, no use to preach about it lol.
But in Revelations it says there will be no more death and the creation will be saved from the perishable my goodness how do you translate that, so no, lambs won't be killed always. At least after the Millennium all we get is soy beans lol.

Vegan heaven?

 

[Wilhemena]

The Passover feast was never given to foreigners to eat and I cannot for the life of me understand the attraction of wanting to play Passover in church when we were not called to do so but instead we have the words of Jesus who tells us to take eat and take drink.

 

[MoreCoffee]

The Passover feast was never given to foreigners to eat and I cannot for the life of me understand the attraction of wanting to play Passover in church when we were not called to do so but instead we have the words of Jesus who tells us to take eat and take drink.

I too cannot see the appeal of this voluntary subjection of one's self to a law that is now abrogated yet some seem to desire it but what is particularly disturbing is that they say they 'observe the feasts' and 'obey the commandments' yet they make no sacrifices of the animals commanded in the law and have no temple in Jerusalem in which the make the sacrifices nor have they any priests descended from Aaron (the brother of Moses) to kill the sacrifices as the law stipulates, so in all that they do they disobey the commandments and abrogate the law by their actions even if their words claim otherwise.

 

[Rens]

https://www.google.nl/amp/s/www.gotquestions.org/amp/millennial-sacrifices.html

weird

 

[psalms 91]

Not weird at all

 

[Rens]

http://www.equip.org/article/making-sense-ezekiels-temple-vision/


The dispensationalist answer is that the millennial sacrifices will not be intended to atone for sins. The blood of Christ precludes any need for that. Just as the Old Testament sacrifices anticipated the death of Christ as a future event, it is suggested the future millennial sacrifices will commemorate the death of Christ as a past event.
The text of Ezekiel, however, seems to preclude this, since the various offerings in the temple are said to “make atonement for the house of Israel” (45:17).1 Thus, the sacrifices are presented as an atonement for sin, not as a memorial. Christ Himself recommended the use of wine and bread to commemorate His death (1 Cor. 11:24–26). Why would God replace this with animal sacrifices in which God never found any particular pleasure (Ps. 40:6; 51:16; Heb. 10:6)?
Further, Ezekiel says that “the prince” will offer a sin offering “for himself and for all the people” (45:22). If the prince is required to offer sacrifices for his own sins, this would militate against any theory that identifies him with Christ, who never sinned.

 

[MoreCoffee]

There are the trees of life, the river flowing from the throne of God the city of God bathed in the light of God and in that city there is no temple. No temple and no sacrifices and no dead animals and no blood shed for the forgiveness of sins because no one sins there.

 

[psalms 91]

You again miss it, there are those who rule and reign with Christ (spiritual) and then there are those living in the physical, they are not the same guess that is why people dont like Revelation much, easy to get confused I guess

 

[MoreCoffee]

You again miss it, there are those who rule and reign with Christ (spiritual) and then there are those living in the physical, they are not the same guess that is why people dont like Revelation much, easy to get confused I guess

Are they 144,000 in number?

 

[psalms 91]

Not that I am aware but then again I dont interpret that very well, why? Do you believe that?

 

[Rens]

Are they 144,000 in number?

That's the ones in the 3,5 years with ac. Then we get raptured, reign with Christs, get new bodies and those others live another 1000 years, then comes the devil again and Armageddon. And then the tree of Life stuff.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Not that I am aware but then again I dont interpret that very well, why? Do you believe that?

144,000 get a mention in the Apocalypse. Rev 14:1-5 Then I looked, and behold, on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads. (2) And I heard a voice from heaven like the roar of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder. The voice I heard was like the sound of harpists playing on their harps, (3) and they were singing a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and before the elders. No one could learn that song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. (4) It is these who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are virgins. It is these who follow the Lamb wherever he goes. These have been redeemed from mankind as firstfruits for God and the Lamb, (5) and in their mouth no lie was found, for they are blameless.

They are redeemed from the Earth and are unique in their faithfulness. Wouldn't they be the rulers who are joint heirs with Christ? Yes?