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Let:

$\displaystyle L=\lim_{n\to\infty}\left(\sqrt{n^2+n}-\sqrt[3]{n^3+n^2}\right)$

Find $L$...and show your work to get 1,000 CH cash (1,500 CH cash for proofs that don't rely on L'Hôpital's Rule).
 

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I saw the title and immediately thought of the movie Mean Girls without looking at the post and what popped in my head was The Limit Does Not Exist! LOL

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I know nothing about limits to actually work out the problem!! Sorry.
 

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Let:

$\displaystyle L=\lim_{n\to\infty}\left(\sqrt{n^2+n}-\sqrt[3]{n^3+n^2}\right)$

Find $L$...and show your work to get 1,000 CH cash (1,500 CH cash for proofs that don't rely on L'Hôpital's Rule).

If that is the formula, haven't you already defined L?

If looking for a number, then variable "n" needs to be identified.
 

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The limit is L. Obviously, it says it right there in the puzzle ;)

After a short search L was found to the left of the = sign.
 

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Seriously, I just ran a sheet in Excel with ever-increasing numbers and it was clear that it was asymptotic to 0.1666666666
 

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Seriously, I just ran a sheet in Excel with ever-increasing numbers and it was clear that it was asymptotic to 0.1666666666

I kind of thought this might be the case (evaluation of the expression for large values of $n$), and I do appreciate your honesty here. If no one can provide an algebraic proof within the next couple of days, you'll get the 1500 CH cash. :D
 

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My solution:

We are given to evaluate:

$\displaystyle L=\lim_{n\to\infty}\left(\sqrt{n^2+n}-\sqrt[3]{n^3+n^2}\right)$

This has the indeterminate form $\infty-\infty$, so let's rewrite the expression:

$\displaystyle \sqrt{n^2+n}-\sqrt[3]{n^3+n^2}\cdot\frac{\dfrac{1}{n}}{\dfrac{1}{n}}= \frac{\sqrt{\dfrac{1}{n}+1}-\sqrt[3]{\dfrac{1}{n}+1}}{\dfrac{1}{n}}$

Next, let's use the substitution:

$\displaystyle u=\frac{1}{n}+1$ which means that as $n\to\infty$ then $u\to1$ and our limit becomes:

$\displaystyle L=\lim_{u\to1}\left(\frac{u^{\frac{1}{2}}-u^{\frac{1}{3}}}{u-1}\right)$

At this point we have the indeterminate form $\dfrac{0}{0}$, which means we may apply L'Hôpital's Rule:

$\displaystyle L=\lim_{u\to1}\left(\frac{\dfrac{1}{2}u^{-\frac{1}{2}}-\dfrac{1}{3}u^{-\frac{2}{3}}}{1}\right)= \frac{1}{6}\lim_{u\to1}\left(3u^{-\frac{1}{2}}-2u^{-\frac{2}{3}}\right)$

Now we have a determinate form, and we may state:

$\displaystyle L=\frac{1}{6}\left(3(1)-2(1)\right)=\frac{1}{6}$

If we don't want to rely on L'Hôpital's Rule, then let's return to the point:

$\displaystyle L=\lim_{u\to1}\left(\frac{u^{\frac{1}{2}}-u^{\frac{1}{3}}}{u-1}\right)$

$\displaystyle\frac{u^{\frac{1}{2}}-u^{\frac{1}{3}}}{u-1}\cdot\frac{u^{\frac{1}{2}}+u^{\frac{2}{3}}}{u^{\frac{1}{2}}+u^{\frac{2}{3}}}= \frac{u^{\frac{5}{6}}\left(u^{\frac{1}{3}}-1\right)}{(u-1)\left(u^{\frac{1}{2}}+u^{\frac{2}{3}}\right)}$

Next, let's observe that $u-1$ may be written as the difference of cubes and then factored:

$\displaystyle u-1=\left(u^{\frac{1}{3}}\right)^3-1^3= \left(u^{\frac{1}{3}}-1\right) \left(u^{\frac{2}{3}}+ u^{\frac{1}{3}}+1\right)$

Hence, we have:

$\displaystyle \frac{u^{\frac{1}{2}}-u^{ \frac{1}{3}}}{u-1}= \frac{u^{ \frac{5}{6}}}{\left(u^{ \frac{2}{3}}+u^{ \frac{1}{3}}+1\right)\left(u^{ \frac{1}{2}}+u^{\frac{2}{3}}\right)}= \frac{u^{\frac{1}{3}}}{ \left(u^{\frac{2}{3}}+u^{ \frac{1}{3}}+1\right)\left(u^{ \frac{1}{6}}+1\right)}$

And thus, our limit is:

$\displaystyle L=\lim_{u\to1}\left( \frac{u^{\frac{1}{3}}}{ \left(u^{\frac{2}{3}}+ u^{\frac{1}{3}}+1\right) \left(u^{\frac{1}{6}}+1\right)}\right)$

Now we no longer have an indeterminate form, and we may evaluate the limit directly:

$\displaystyle L= \frac{1}{ \left(1+ 1+1\right) \left(1+1\right)}=\frac{1}{6}$
 

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