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Hey everyone! I'm needing some people to answer some questions for me as I am doing an interview assignment for my English class. I need a few responses so if you could help, it would be appreciated!

If you are interested, answer the following questions and PM them to me!
1. Do you feel prayer should be allowed back in schools?
2. How do you feel the school system has progressed without prayer in schools?
3. What are your thoughts on the increase of violent crimes since the removal of prayer in schools?
4.What impact do you think placing prayer back into schools would do?
5. In maintaining an equal playing field with prayer back in schools, would there be any restrictions on prayer?
6. How could prayer back in schools be a negative effect?


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Hey everyone! I'm needing some people to answer some questions for me as I am doing an interview assignment for my English class. I need a few responses so if you could help, it would be appreciated!

If you are interested, answer the following questions and PM them to me!
1. Do you feel prayer should be allowed back in schools?
2. How do you feel the school system has progressed without prayer in schools?
3. What are your thoughts on the increase of violent crimes since the removal of prayer in schools?
4.What impact do you think placing prayer back into schools would do?
5. In maintaining an equal playing field with prayer back in schools, would there be any restrictions on prayer?
6. How could prayer back in schools be a negative effect?


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1. yes
2. I see no difference in the school system.
3. Don't think it's connected. We don't have that in Holland simply because guns are not allowed. Prayer could help. Once a guy I knew saw a guy with an illegal gun who wanted to get it out of his bag because those people were nagging him and he prayed and nothing happened, he put it back.
4. People get saved and healed, I loved it when we started a prayer group in a school where there was no prayer. Things happened. A teacher who was mad at God, it was very dangerous, they were afraid he wouldn't make it, got healed.
5. No
6. It's never negative.
 

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...6. It's never negative.

So, out of curiosity, you would have no issue if your children were led by their teacher in a prayer to Allah, or Vishnu, or Zeus?
 

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Is this prayer a default Christian connection or any type of prayer as Mark points out.

If we answer are we allowed to go into depth explaining our answers then?
 

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Is this prayer a default Christian connection or any type of prayer as Mark points out.

If we answer are we allowed to go into depth explaining our answers then?



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Hey everyone! I'm needing some people to answer some questions for me as I am doing an interview assignment for my English class. I need a few responses so if you could help, it would be appreciated!

If you are interested, answer the following questions and PM them to me!


Here goes:

1. Do you feel prayer should be allowed back in schools?

Definitely allowed, just not mandated. I don't want children forced to pray to a deity they may not worship or even believe in.

2. How do you feel the school system has progressed without prayer in schools?

It's been a lot of years since I was in the school system and I don't have children of my own so it's hard to say.

3. What are your thoughts on the increase of violent crimes since the removal of prayer in schools?

There are so many possible causes for the increase in violent crime I don't know that focussing exclusively on prayer in school, or the lack thereof, is necessarily helpful. It's certainly hard to see how forcing children to go through the motions of praying to a god they don't believe exists will reduce violent crime, and children who do believe in God are still quite able to pray in private, in their own time etc.

As far as the increase in violent crimes is concerned I think we need to look at the "me first" society, the lack of father figures in many families, the lack of positive role models for many people (especially teenage boys growing up without a father who learn what it means to be a man from other teenage boys or gang members) and the idea that if we want something then it's acceptable to do whatever it takes to get it (this applies equally to the white collar fraudster in his penthouse suite as it does the gang member living in the projects)

4.What impact do you think placing prayer back into schools would do?

Aside from creating more religious freedom for people of faith it's hard to know for sure.

5. In maintaining an equal playing field with prayer back in schools, would there be any restrictions on prayer?

Only that nobody should be forced to take part in prayers. I don't want Christian children forced to say prayers to Allah or Vishnu and wouldn't expect Muslim or Hindu children to be forced to say prayers to my God.

6. How could prayer back in schools be a negative effect?

If it creates more divisions between people. If people are forced to pray to a god other than the one they worship (whether or not they worship at all) it's hard to see how it could do anything but create hostility. If one group finds they can't pray because another group has taken over the facilities, if political correctness means that every religion under the sun gets their own special facilities while Christians are expected to just do the best they can after the satanists have done their thing in the shared facility, or similar.

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Since others are making their answers public, I will too:

Here are my answers:

1. Do you feel prayer should be allowed back in schools?

I assume you are talking about school led prayers, because students have never been prevented from taking a moment to pray privately to the deity of their choosing. Having school led prayers is in direct violation of our constitution, and so the progress we have made there should not be reversed.​

2. How do you feel the school system has progressed without prayer in schools?

Our school systems have many deficiencies, but as far as I know, these have not been affected one way or the other because of the removal of the unconstitutional school led prayers.​

3. What are your thoughts on the increase of violent crimes since the removal of prayer in schools?

I don't think any change in violence has anything to do with school prayer. Correlation doesn't imply causation, and if anything, given that the more religious a society is, the more violent it tends to be, I would say any increase in violence has occurred despite the removal of school led prayers.​

4.What impact do you think placing prayer back into schools would do?

It would alienate and even ostracize all students whose religious affiliation did not fit the religion being unconstitutionally imposed on them.​

5. In maintaining an equal playing field with prayer back in schools, would there be any restrictions on prayer?

The only restriction we should follow is that wisely put into place by our constitution and not impose any religion on our students. We can teach them about various religions, but we should not require them to follow any religious practices. To do so would be to violate their constitutional rights.​

6. How could prayer back in schools be a negative effect?

See #4. But again, students have never been prevented from praying privately. It is the imposition of any religion on anyone in a public setting that is unconstitutional and should never be allowed.​
 

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So, out of curiosity, you would have no issue if your children were led by their teacher in a prayer to Allah, or Vishnu, or Zeus?

LOL yes btw I thought it was not forced. Private prayer groups are much better. Forced is stupid. We had that for a year on a school that was called christian, but the teachers weren't even christian. Now they had to keep a morning prayer with us. One guy got sick of it and refused to pray the forced prayer on a paper and told us about our zodiac signs.
 

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LOL yes btw I thought it was not forced. Private prayer groups are much better. Forced is stupid. We had that for a year on a school that was called christian, but the teachers weren't even christian. Now they had to keep a morning prayer with us. One guy got sick of it and refused to pray the forced prayer on a paper and told us about our zodiac signs.

:smirk:

Forced acts of "worship" have very little value.
 

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1. Do you feel prayer should be allowed back in schools?


It was never forbidden, and I'm SURE lots of prayers are offered up to God as test papers are handed out. What was disallowed was STATE prepared public prayer lead by STATE employees (students may still lead prayer, it's often done by sports teams and in Christian clubs).

I support the change. It's not the secular state's role to teach about God or to teach theology. If I were a parent (and I'm not - yet anyway), I would not want the DMV or Hilary Clinton teaching their "religion" to my kids. I'll do that, thank you very much.



2. How do you feel the school system has progressed without prayer in schools?


Public elementary schools in the USA do poorly.... in spite of massage spending (it's NOT a money problem). My wife teaches second grade in a public school and I've learned powerfully where the "problem" lies - not with teachers (although there are some bad ones), not with administration (although it's far too "top heavy" and way too much regulation), certainly not with money (the USA is near the top in education spending). It's parents. It use to be our American culture almost universally valued education and took an active role in the education process. That's still true among SOME aspects of our very diverse society (people of Asian heritage, for example) but is severely lacking in some others. Kids aren't getting support or encouragement.... too many families just don't care, and yes (not to be racist) it IS very cultural. A distant second is language. In California, a large percentage of students are either non-English speaking or weak English speakers. Public education has at times done well and at times poorly in addressing this, but truth is - a lot of these kids never do catch up. In the school my wife teaches in, the non-hispanic students actually score above the national average, but the Hispanic kids (some are second language) score far below so the whole school looks pretty bad on paper. That issue alone (in addition to the cultural one that impacts most schools) impacts public education in the USA. Some of this is just unavoidable; in some school distrincts in California, MOST of the students are Spanish speakers primarily (and perhaps their parents exclusively). My wife speaks Spanish - which helps her (including with parents) but there is only one other teacher at her school that is.




3. What are your thoughts on the increase of violent crimes since the removal of prayer in schools?


Both are the result of cultural issues. But these two issues are not in a cause/effect relationship. Religion (not just prayer in school) has been in decline as violance has been in increase.



4.What impact do you think placing prayer back into schools would do?

What LITTLE religious up-bringing that the FEW Christian parents do will decrease even more. Liberal, Democrat - Appointed Judges will teach religion to our kids - probably Agnosticism.




5. In maintaining an equal playing field with prayer back in schools, would there be any restrictions on prayer?

Of course. Liberals, Democrats, Atheists will DEMAND that the prayer not be Christian (and maybe not even theistic) and be equally "tolerant" toward Atheists, Hindus, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims and Agnostics. "We thank what cannot be mentioned for what cannot be mentioned and cannot mention that the cannot be mentioned do we can't say." Not sure that accomplishes much.




6. How could prayer back in schools be a negative effect?


Yes. Paganism/Agnosticism/Atheism will be taught as the Secular State strives to teach something tolerant of all beliefs/faiths/thoughts and that will be favored by liberal judges and politicians.

Parents will be even MORE inactive in teaching faith to their children. Handing what little they do to the secular, agnostic, liberal State as it develops a pagan secular religion to promote.



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I do not need to add anything as both Tango's and MarkFL's answers pretty much reflect my view at this time.
 
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